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[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 47 points 4 months ago

The minors were charged with 20 counts of creating child sex abuse images and 20 counts of offenses against their victims’ moral integrity

Punishment or not, those charges are still scary. I think the probation and courses are a good addition.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 10 points 4 months ago

I don’t think those are additions, I think those are the punishments for those charges, in full. I could be wrong but that’s how I read it.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 31 points 4 months ago

Teens sentenced in Spain were between the ages of 13 and 15. According to the Guardian, Spanish law prevented sentencing of minors under 14, but the youth court "can force them to take part in rehabilitation courses."

Some of them are too young to receive real sentencing. It's important to remember that they're children, too.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 19 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it's probably more important to make sure we don't have child porn generation machines available to anyone online.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 14 points 4 months ago

Since anyone can download and train their own AI, that ship has probably sailed.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 11 points 4 months ago

I think training your own image generator on existing child porn is probably beyond most high schoolers. I'd be happy if at least commercial options were held responsible for distributing generated CP, which is already illegal BTW.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago

I don't think the models are trained on CP. They're likely trained on widely-available porn.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 9 points 4 months ago

This. If you ask an image generator for a bed in the shape of a pineapple, it probably has no pineapple-shaped beds in its training data but it has pineapples and beds and can mash the concepts together.

[-] Onihikage@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago

Technically, any model trained on LAION-5B before December 2023 was trained on CSAM.

But yeah, I expect any porn model trained on a sufficient diversity of adult actors could be used to make convincing CP even without having it in the training data. AI image generation is basically the digital equivalent of a chainsaw - a tool for a particular messy job that can really hurt people if used incorrectly. You wouldn't let a typical kid run around unattended with one, that's for sure.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

I expect any porn model trained on a sufficient diversity of adult actors could be used to make convincing CP even without having it in the training data.

I know I'm wading into the danger zone here, but let's also remember we're talking about teenagers. A (for example) 15 year old's body type will be closer to an 18 year old's than a 5 year old's, so the perfectly legal porn model would work just fine for that, uh, purpose.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Good luck with that

I mean you can do a significant amount by making it illegal to offer it on the open web, which might be the way to go, but creating awesome things that can be had once you go outside the law actually carries its own little long-term consequences

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