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[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Baldwin's stunt double accidentally discharged a live round under very similar conditions to the lethal event shortly before the fatal accident. Crew members had lodged formal complaints to the Production Manager and many left in protest when these issues were not addressed because it being a non union show there was no other authority to appeal to for better safety standards. The number of armourers they had was not nearly enough for the volume of the show. It not just that they hired crappy ones that violated every common sense rule that exists in the wider body of film. This was a firestorm of factors.

A lot of the issues are that people do not understand film structure, safety culture and just how regimented things are when done properly. The burden of context required is high and the structure of productions as temporary entities makes it really hard to prosecute and honestly if we weren't dealing with a face people know this would be easier. The fact he was literally holding the smoking gun means you have two separate but related culpabilities.

People have been charged in film for these incidents in the past. The fact the prosecution didn't adhere to proper process does mean there should be a redo... But to dismiss it with prejudice sends a message to these indy films that playing with fire and ignoring flagrant safety violations that would have you instantly shut down on a union show is okay and that is unacceptable.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

You're 100% right all throughout your comment chain. I'm similarly outraged.

I have an eclectic employment history that includes set safety and theatrical firearm safety. Based on the information available, production was grossly negligent here.

Just like any other industry, if employees are harmed due to negligence, those responsible for that negligence should be held accountable. Given Baldwin (and production in general) was aware of crew concerns, safety gaps, and previous near misses and had the ability to address those issues but failed to do so, they all should absolutely be held accountable.

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It is a sad fact that our industry is treated and often treats itself so often as an exception to the conventions of a workplace. A lot of it has to do with novel input and output. At our core though we are an industry and the rules aren't different. It's just the context of process is more difficult to grock then in other applications of the laws. Producers on indy productions tend to think of their creative role primarily and often consider that they are an employer with responsibilities and duty of care of their employees only belatedly... And society tends to treat them as though they are functionally airhead babies who can't be held accountable because "how could they know better".

It's their job to know better. They often don't because a studio tends to have internal means of enforcing safety to protect their investments... But if there's nobody and no process to stop you making decisions that kill someone then liability is your reward. Indy shows don't have the safety valve infrastructure and protections union or big studio shows do and that cuts more than one way.

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