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I want AOC on the ticket.
We need her in the legislature. Presidents fuck off after 4-8 years, we can't spend one of our progressives so early
She's too young unfortunately.
Edit: she turns 35 in October so she's just barely old enough. She's 34 right now though so I don't think I deserved that downvote.
She turns 35 this year before the election. She's eligible.
She is old enough legally.
She’s not grown up enough. But she will be one day.
Found the 10 year old
Found the 5 year old.
Trolling aside… we could use a young president who gives a shit about the future of this country and the planet.
I agree. However her resume is rather short on management positions at the moment, so I’d say she’s unqualified. But, I think she can get there. She does need to keep her face in the media though, I haven’t really seen her much lately.
She's a politician. She's never going to get a job in management.
Many political positions qualify as “management” positions because they manage things. The president manages people.
Case in point
Pot, kettle.
The difference is that mine was used to further illustrate your childish/immature (ironic, no?) nature, which you flawlessly glided into.
Saying someone is too young to run for president when they’re a couple years younger than the average age.. makes sense. Let’s have someone with ideals they grew in the early 2000/90s/80s run the country in 2024. Makes sense only when you yourself are in that bucket.
I think it’s okay to pity the conditions that make us flawed humans. Doesn’t make it justification, but to acknowledge the vulns we have as people and actively work on them is to evolve and climb the steps of Great Filter.
I didn’t mention age. Being grown up isn’t related to age, as we can see by your continued commentary.
Cool deflection bro
You mean, reflection. 🪞
No I meant deflection
Reflection?
Girl, you'll be a woman... soon.
As much as I'd like her, AOC has the same problem as Hillary. She draws more opposition than support. She would motivate the Republican base against her far more than the Democratic base for her.
The same Hilary Clinton that won the popular election in 2016?
Exactly.
In the states that actually matter, Hillary drew more Trump voters to the polls than Hillary voters. It doesn't particularly matter that she won landslide victories in states where Democrats always win landslide victories.
In 2016, both parties tried to throw the election, and the Democrats succeeded.
The lesson (that should have been) learned is that a blue state Democrat can't win if the red states are united. The solution is pretty straightforward: find a red state Democrat, and suddenly the former swing states that went red 20 years ago are now in play again.
Agreed. I would love for AOC to get the nomination, but I honestly don’t think she couldn’t this particular election. I think she’s been too polarized by the media and is considered a “radical pick”.
I would say that her problem is very different than Hillary's. Hillary was not popular with Democrats and she was hated by Republicans. AOC is loved by some Democrats, liked by a bunch, and disliked by some while being absolutely reviled by Republicans. That would get AOC more support than Hillary got.
It's the "absolutely reviled by Republicans" part that is the concern. It doesn't matter how popular she is with Democrats. It matters how popular she is in the swing states, and whether she can be competitive in a red one.
Mark Kelly can win the swing states; AOC and Hillary cannot.
I'm not familiar with how popular she is or is not among unaffiliated voters. That matters more than how Republicans feel about her.
Many of the people you call "unaffiliated" most recently voted Republican, and refer to themselves as Republicans. When I speak of "Republican" voters, I mean the people who currently intend to vote for Trump, but would be willing to switch for the right candidate. You would probably call that group "unaffiliated".
I am unaffiliated.