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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 months ago

In the month that followed President Joe Biden’s disastrous debate with Donald Trump, it has sometimes been hard to escape the conclusion that, for all the warnings that the Republican candidate was an existential threat to democratic governance who must be defeated in November, many of the people tasked with stopping him really didn’t seem to feel that way.

If there was one Biden comment that stung more than all the others, it was his response to a question from George Stephanopolous during his first post-debate interview about how he’d feel in January if Trump went on to win. 

“I’ll feel as long as I gave it my all and I did as good a job as I know I can do,” Biden said, “that’s what this is about.”

That answer. Right fucking there. He said that in the “recovery” interview and I said aloud “oh god we are completely fucked”. I was cautiously optimistic (albeit quite concerned on a lot of fronts) before, but that one limpdick, unenthusiastic, tired comment made me realize that Biden apparently did not seem to fully understand the stakes nor have his head in the game, and it made me absolutely fucking furious. Like, come the fuck on. You cannot do that in the face of a potential fascist takeover of government. That is objectively the wrong strategy. Fucking try harder, because the situation desperately calls for it. And if you can’t try harder, you need to get the fuck out, because you’re not the candidate we need.

So yeah; I’m absolutely fucking stoked that he stepped back from the campaign. But I’m still completely shocked and dismayed that he had to be literally saved by some careful prodding from Pelosi to avoid utterly shredding his political legacy - alongside, you know, democracy in America in general. The hubris in the context of the direness of the situation was quite simply appalling.

All that said, I’m absolutely ready to move on, back Kamala (or whoever gets the nomination, but realistically it’s going to be Kamala) and kick the fucking fascists in the teeth - electorally, for sure, but literally too, if necessary.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

This is how I felt in the debate when he called trump a liar and then turned around and was like I'd golf with you any time!

Like wtf dude...trump should be in prison and tried to overthrow your election and you're like let's play the back nine quick?

[-] shasta@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

I think he was failing to make a quip about beating him at golf

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Ssssasooooo...wanna continue to be pissed after Trump is triumphed over? Cause we can all do a lot if we just STOP. FUCKING. NOT CARING. THE INSTANT A PRESIDENT IS ELECTED.

Be like, "We don't like all the things." while also not being even remotely involved if it's not an election year. COME ON NOW.

What about my comment leads you to believe I’m generally detached from political goings-on, or that I’m being anything but ruthlessly pragmatic in the context of what we need to do to defeat the fascists?

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

What about my comment makes you certain I'm referring only to you: A single individual part of a larger sociocultural node who I know absolutely nothing about?

Defensive much? Of course I'm talking about how this usually goes: Election happens, people pop out from nowhere, lots of discourse, election ends, all those people disappear.

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