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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We can, but it requires not having billionaires.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

No more billionaires, but everyone can be a millionaire.

The shortest path to equality is to greatly reduce taxes on the middle class and increase them on the wealthy.

It puzzles me why leftist parties don't all embrace lower taxes for the middle class.

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

It puzzles me why leftist parties don't all embrace lower taxes for the middle class.

They all do. My best guess as to why you'd say this is that you're including Democrats.

edit: Or, I could be a self-centered American that didn't consider others. I'll do better.

At risk of a strawman...

The shortest path to equality is to greatly reduce taxes on the middle class and increase them on the wealthy.

That's what's best for equality and for economic growth. Does this mean Democrats are horribly incompetent? Perhaps it's that equality and economic growth aren't their goals.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's also possible they're not from the US. There are dozens of us. Dozens!

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Fuck. I'm being a self-centered American, again. I'll do better in the future. Thanks for the help.

[–] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Considering the strains currently on the environment, finding a way forward that doesn’t require continual growth is likely a necessity for our long term survival (possibly short term too)

[–] SirDerpy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

But, muh' capitalism!

If it doesn't work then we've killed all these socialists and communist for nothing.

(Do I need a /s here? Is it obvious? Should be obvious.)

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

It puzzles me why leftist parties don't all embrace lower taxes for the middle class.

Functionally, we don't have one. The closest is the Green Party, but they're so powerless that they may as well not exist.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A lot of leftist view taxes as a good thing, when taken from those who can afford them

[–] classic@fedia.io 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Taxes have never been the issue. How they are used is. But that gets obfuscated so that the 99% shoot ourselves in the foot

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Taxes are DEFINITELY an issue when I pay more taxes than many billion dollar corporations.

[–] classic@fedia.io 3 points 11 months ago

Yes. You (and I, and most of us) are experiencing the end result of the American people being played with a deceiving narrative. "No taxes" is a con game to get us to this type of situation

[–] Chakravanti@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're wrong. It doesn't require no money. It requires that you have rejected the sucker for money.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is literally the future Jesus' theoretical return presents but a lot of (not all) Christians aren't on board.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, people have believed in dumb shit like that since our species emerged from the primordial ooze.

[–] Chakravanti@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only in any world that doesn't die shortly thereafter.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This world isn't going to die.

It's just going to change.

Our species might though.

[–] Chakravanti@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago

Depends on the path we take. They're after my truth.