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Joe Biden has called on Congress to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act, moments after shocking police video was released showing an Illinois officer fatally shooting Sonya Massey after she called police fearing a home intruder.

In his first public statement since dropping his bid for re-election, Biden said the shooting of Massey, a 36-year-old Black woman, by white Sangamon county sheriff’s deputy Sean Grayson, in her home in Springfield, after a dispute over a pot of boiling water, “reminds us that all too often Black Americans face fears for their safety in ways many of the rest of us do not”.

Biden, who is recovering from Covid at his home in Delaware, said Massey, “a beloved mother, friend, daughter and young Black woman … should be alive today”.

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[-] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We could start with holding police officers responsible. It's great that they charged this one, but why aren't the other police there being charged as accomplices since they took no action to prevent the shooting?

So here's a few simple starter thoughts.

  1. Establish an external agency with the mandate of prosecuting police. They have their own prosecutorial system, their own investigators, their own prosecutors, their own courts and their own judges, completely unconnected to the prosecutorial system the police work with. You cannot have the same people that work together one day and rely on each other be the ones to investigate each other, it doesn't work. Not even a separate 'internal affairs division' is enough.

  2. Any police officer who discharges their weapon, for any reason, is immediately suspended, and any pay is withheld until an investigation for why the weapon was discharged is completed. The investigation of course is conducted by that external agency.

  3. If a police officer discharging a weapon causes injury or death, all police officers on the scene are suspended and their pay withheld until the investigation is over.

  4. If the police officer who discharged their weapon is charged with assault, murder, whatever, then all other officers at the scene are charged as accomplices, unless they took proactive action to prevent the first officer from committing their illegal action. Think of it like felony murder - if you and a group of friends are committing a crime and someone is murdered, you are all prosecutable under felony murder even if you had no direct hand in the murder at all.

That's probably a good start, it may not solve all the problems, but it'd be a lot better than what's being done now, which is very, very little. I'd say an even better thing to do in addition would be to have every current police officer purged and never work in law enforcement again. All police organizations kinda need a clean slate with fresh people and no organizational momentum and culture carryover from how it's happening now, because a lot of what needs to change is organizational culture, and just altering the rules is more difficult than rebuilding a completely new organizational culture from the ground up.

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

At least you offered a solution. But it's batshit crazy.

Have every current police officer purged

That's impossible...there's not enough people out there qualified to replace the current police force.

I do like an external review of every discharge of a weapon, but I think the immediate suspension is too much.

The accomplice bit I'm on the fence. In this case, the other officer was in shock I think. He's not going to shoot his partner after the fact, which would be the only reasonable action. He could have arrested him I guess, but that all happened pretty quick)

(Really put yourself in that situation...a guy who you trust with your life pulls his gun, says "I'm going to shoot you in the face, and proceeds to shoot the person in the face...Personally, I'd have total brain lock in complete and utter shock of that tragic fuck up).

IMO...I still like some cops. In my interactions with them 8 of 10 have been professional, INCLUDING having one draw on me once (it's a dumb story, and I fucked up).

I think we CAN reform the shit out of the force in general, but you can't start from a place where "all cops are bad." They aren't.

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