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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Except movements are rarely focused like that. I doubt The Black Panthers knew school lunches and child care were going to be the traction they needed when they started theirs. Just like I doubt the kid that just heard of solarpunk and wants to learn how to grow veggies because of it, understands what their effort might do to change their community.

I'll admit solarpunk is very much in a spaghetti on the wall phase rn. But it's also barely a decade old.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

I doubt The Black Panthers knew school lunches and child care were going to be the traction they needed when they started theirs.

Incorrect, the Black Panther Party was Marxist-Leninist and was attempting to build up a vanguard party, and a part of that theory is building up dual power and parallel structures to fold the public in and garner support.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 months ago

Effective political action is focused and intentional. The BPP had a plan. There is no central solarpunk organ for democratic decision making, there is no party program. They have nothing that would make them an effective org.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 months ago

It's focused after they realize what is effective. The BPP had a plan after canned food drives and fund raisers weren't. Why does there have to be a central organ for it to be a movement? I never claim for solarpunk to be an organization. But at this point I feel like you intentionally missing the point. Thanks for the talk though.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

It’s focused after they realize what is effective.

No, it wasn't. Have you read any of the first hand accounts of the BPP?

But at this point I feel like you intentionally missing the point.

The point of movements is to accomplish things. Solarpunk isn't a movement if there is no theory of change.

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