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Kamala Harris says ‘I will not be silent’ on suffering in Gaza after Netanyahu talks (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You misunderstand. I’m saying comparing abducted Ukrainian children to killed Palestinian children is not clarified by the use of the word genocide. They are both genocides. It’s all the more reason that we should be addressing it as the tens of thousands of killed innocent civilian women and children in Gaza.

Are you aware that the Tibetan genocide has been ongoing since 1951? I’ve attended peaceful protests since the 80s on the sinicization of the Tibetan people. They are not recognized as a nation by the UN, so no nations will intervene. Nations around the world just keep buying Chinese products to fund their genocides, and look the other way.

The word genocide describes the intent, not the actions. If the intent is to eradicate a culture or people, regardless of the methods, it is considered genocide. It can be through forced indoctrination of a religion as with Tibetans, through forced adoption of a nationality as with the Ukrainians, through forced sterilization as with the Uyghurs, or through killing people as with Palestinians.

Saying “what’s happening to the Palestinians is worse than what’s happening to Ukrainians, so we should really call that genocide” displays ignorance in both the definition of the word, and comprehension of the events.

[+] Sami@lemmy.zip -10 points 1 month ago

You're the one that compared them to imply that if you call this a genocide but not this a genocide then you are not consistent than proceeded to name 3 cultural genocides (with Ukraine's having potential to become a full blown genocide depending on how the war plays out in my opinion).

If we can't agree that a killings-based genocide is worse than a cultural erasure genocide then there's nothing left to talk about. Unless you believe that if the Chinese began systematically killing Tibetans tomorrow that nothing would fundamentally change in your classification.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

By referring to some as cultural genocide, and others as “full-blown” genocide, you’ve clearly learned nothing from our discussion.

Maybe reading it from the World Without Genocide may help you understand.

https://worldwithoutgenocide.org/genocides-and-conflicts/genocide-of-the-uyghurs-in-western-china/china-tibet-and-the-uyghurs

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