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What are 'male levels of testosterone' exactly?
Are men with hypergonadism not men?
Don't be obtuse. It's considered a malady in males, hence the full term "Male hypogonadism".
Your definition of female:
"Does not contain male levels of testosterone post maturity."
That includes men with hypogonadism.
It's not my fault that the medical term doesn't agree with your definition.
Oh? Explain why you think "male" is specified in the disease then if my definition were not correct?
You defined 'female' purely based on testosterone levels. That's not my fault if it fits some men.
So you can't. Got it.
I literally did. I'm not sure why you're pretending I didn't, but okay.
Again, it's not my fault that your definition includes some men.
By the way, can you find any biologist who agrees with that definition? Because I've looked and I can't.
The definition stands with an express exception due to pathology. The exception that proves the rule.
Show me a scientist that doesn't agree. Good luck when blood test paperwork literally declares the range for males.
Edit: Some related reading for you while you search
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That is not a biologist. Please find one. Name. Paper.
That is not how science works. That is a folk idea of rules.
Nothing to do with this conversation whatsoever.
Now, either show me some evidence that actual biologists agree with you or we're done.
"Testosterone is the primary male hormone responsible for regulating sex differentiation, producing male sex characteristics, spermatogenesis, and fertility"
"Biologically, males are defined as the sex that produces the smaller gametes (e.g. sperm)"
Edit: So basically every biologist on the planet that understands basic mammalian anatomy.
I read your second link first since it had the word 'defined' in it and I saw that you didn't read past that sentence, because you would know a bit more if you did. You are not here in good faith.
Yes, vague nonsensical statements are going to work. The abstract says nothing along the lines of what you appear to suggest it is.
You are the one not here in good faith. You've yet to substantiate a claim, and are obviously only here to defend your agenda, and not the science
What did I suggest it is? Because you're the one making the claim here, not me. All I said was that you did not read it further.
A claim. Substantiate it.
No, I have no reason to play the "prove I'm not here in good faith" game. You clearly did not read the whole paper, you read one sentence and thought it supported your point. I'll leave it up to everyone else to read the paper and judge for themselves.
Also, I do not give in to silly demands. If you had requested I substantiate it, maybe this would have ended differently.
Edit: Also, looking into your history, I see you've been breaking a few of our community rules.
It was not a 'silly demand'. It was an implied argument:
Your statement was either a claim that can be substantiated and should be otherwise it is a personal attack for which you should be banned for 3 days in this world you live in where "I feel seen" is considered uncivil.
But, I think you knew this which is why you, by your own admission, immediately scrambled for an excuse to ban me by examining my history in hopes anything was there so you could press what you think is an 'I win' button. Sadly, by abusing your mod powers all you do is hurt Lemmy and the fact you did the exact same thing less than an hour later to someone else you weren't arguing in good faith with tells me this is a serious problem that I doubt is going to get fixed.
So, enjoy your own personal 4Chan for however long it lasts but know you lost the argument when you couldn't resort to anything but an unstubstantiated ad hominem and had to hide behind false authority to cover it up.