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[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 months ago

Are you implying there is something we can do? Ooh, ooh, I know! We can ban straws! And a few if us can shower a minute shorter, that will show those pesky reefs!

Not that I'm saying that small steps don't help, I'm sure they do, but we do tiny shit like this and a single corporation takes us a marathon back by deciding it's cheaper to cause more pollution.

The only thing that will help is a world wide effort to curb capitalist systems. Not saying "go communist!" I'm saying we need to apply a boat load of strict environment laws and uphold them, and help companies responsible both in civil court as in criminal court. Make them pay 25% of a years revenue, jail C suit level (and lower) execs that signed off on pollution decisions or were the ones in charge of whatever caused the pollution.

Give companies good and real incentives to play nice with the environment.

Things like that will help. The entire "what are you going to do about it?" question can be answered with two words: absolutely nothing. Because I can't, and because the real solution shouldn't have to rest on our shoulders, it has to rest on the shoulders of the companies causing this pollution.

[-] killingspark@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

The thing that rests on our collective shoulders is the responsibility to vote for the people that would make the companies pull their weight in this matter. And there is no denying that we collectively did not do that in the past. And if I'm looking at what's happening globally I'm not sure any big nation is going to do it in the near future

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Is it on our shoulders? Fossil fuel companies have been pumping millions into misinformation campaigns and bribing government officials, it's not crazy that people vote for oil, they simply don't know any better

[-] killingspark@feddit.org 1 points 3 months ago

If we want change it can't be on anyone else's shoulders.

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