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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 4 months ago

Not to glorify nazis, but arguable they fought a whole bunch of wars against most european countries and won all of them until they came up against some big ones.

[-] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 87 points 4 months ago

Arguably their biggest mistake was trying to fight both world superpowers at once, in the USSR and Great Britain backed by the US. I can't imagine how they thought that would go well, but thank fuck they did, cause I wouldn't want to see the world they envisioned.

[-] Pechente@feddit.org 63 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If you’re brainwashed by your own propaganda, attacking both superpowers probably feels like a good idea

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 4 months ago

I don't think they wanted to do that. I believe the plan was to pressure the UK to make deal and once that was done they'd be free to attack USSR

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago

My understanding is that Hitler always imagined that the UK would be an ally of his: Germany would be the superpower on the European continent, the UK would have its overseas empire.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

Should've known the Brits were way too proud for that hah

[-] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Also, how are you supposed to keep control of an overseas empire without a strong seat of power? Even after winning the war the Brits still lost it.

[-] Im_old@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago
[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Doesn't seem to have all that popular, especially long term

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Shoutout to the time Oswald Mosley showed up in Liverpool with his fascist nonsense and got a rock to the head lol.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

Hitler was actually an admirer of the British and initially sought an alliance or other non-hostile arrangement. Only when that didn't work he went to war with them

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

He considered Britain to have effectively been defeated, in all except a deal having actually been reached. He thought he would have a quick victory over the USSR (always the flaw), then Britain would finally give up and sign a peace treaty.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Operation Bruhbarossa

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

In their defense, they kicked the everliving shit out of one world power (France) already

[-] redisdead@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

France at that point was not a military superpower. Or even a superpower at all. When WW2 started, France was barely out of ww1 shellshock.

I don't think people realize how fucking BRUTAL ww1 was on France.

There are still areas today (not a lot thankfully) that are considered inhabitable today because of the vast amount of bodies (animal and human), unexploded ordinance, chemical damage... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_rouge

Farmers still find unexploded ww1 ordinance when plowing their fields. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_harvest

Entire forests and villages razed. And I mean, razed down to the ground. Nothing left standing. Not a tree, not a brick.

When I was a kid growing up in my village, the one advice our parents gave us almost every day was 'if you find something shiny, don't touch it.'

Last year I was having a walk in the forest after a good rain and found, half buried in the mud, a German grenade, right in the middle of a path I used to ride my bike almost every day. A friend lost a hand when he found one when we were kids.

BTW, this is what Gazan kids are going to deal with, Ukrainian kids too. Anyone who supports Israel, anyone who supports Russia, supports the future suffering of the kids.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You can get into pedantics of what constitutes a "super" power, a word requiring super Uber duper things since the cold war (the previous guy said "world power"). But suffice to say France was quite powerful at the start of WW2. Its defeat was not a side note.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not how wars work alliance against alliance, that's the point of an alliance.

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