My Dear Gen X,
My joints hurt just as bad as yours do and we need to talk about "Strange New Worlds"...
Guys, it's really good.
I know you. Your parents are old and sick and you're wondering how they'll manage. I know your kids have gotta finish strong in high school this year. I know your spouse is not perfect.
Watch this show and let it carry you back to the reasons you loved Star Trek when you were a kid. I know you, and I know this is what you need right now.
Maybe you are...
1.) One of those that saw Mr. Spock on our parents' black and white TV in the 60s or 70s and thought that he had a perfectly reasonable approach to life. At least to an 8-year-old.
2.) That girl back in grade 10 who had a really unhealthy relationship with Deanna Troi because of some previous life trauma.
3.) Like my father, you liked the skimpy outfits (...no, protect, protect... you know the one) but also, AHEM... more importantly he likened Spock's experiences to his own as an immigrant.
3.) One of the uber nerds back in grade 7 that lit up the local BBS or early Usenet with fierce discussions of Kirk's superiority over Picard.
4.) Re-watching old episodes of TNG (God bless you BBC America) and it makes you feel like you're visiting with old friends.
5.) A lover of competence porn. Don't you wish your team at work had the competence and work ethic of Star Fleet? I love watching Miles having coffee (double strong, double sweet) with his sleeves rolled up getting ready to put in some hard hours.
6.) Your dad watched TOS in his dorm room in college. You watched DS9 in your first apartment when you moved out.
Listen guys, make the time for the show. I know you've gotta go walk the dog because the kids never do. But seriously remember the reasons you got into Star Trek when you were young.
There no such thing as time travel. But this show will remind you about the things you loved about Star Trek.
And if you're one of those fans that cares about canon and timelines and are rightly concerned about the show runner's respect for the source material... Put it like this, the show scores enough points to allow loose standards when it comes to canon.
Discovery doesn't feel right. Lower Decks is awesome but scratches a different itch. I never watched Prodigy (sorry). This show is a gift to us in our old age.
This is modern Star Trek at it finest.
Gen X here. Sorry, I'm going to be an asshole.
I am not telling anyone they can't enjoy it, but when I see things like this, I just can't leave it alone.
I disagree with everything you said, and much like the incessant, "Dude, this is finally the Trek show we wanted dudebrodude!" It honestly makes me question your motives, because I've seen similar, though more blatant, gaslighting elsewhere.
This show suffers from the same illogical plots, very questionable dialogue, and blatant canon failures as Discovery, making a mockery of everything I loved about Star Trek from TOS and growing up through TNG and DS9. This show is nothing like what I grew up with, a calm, consistent, well-considered and well-written morality tale. This show is modern, CW-level feely-feels-schlock. Anyone that enjoys it is welcome to it; but it is nothing like TOS or TNG from my formative years.
I love TNG and can appreciate TOS but seriously, to say those didn't sometimes have absurd plotlines with gaping chasms for plotholes and some of the, in retrospect cringiest dialogue around...
To each their own I guess but I think you might be looking the old stuff through rose coloured glasses.
"Sometimes" they'd have absurd plotlines, of course, but with these new shows, it's the norm. Big difference, same old argument.
I'm only 5 episodes in but so far 4 have been solid TNG quality stories and 1 silly hijinks episode that, unlike the TOS/TNG versions knew that it was being silly and winked to the audience.
Like I say, to each their own.
This is how you know it's a good show.
The true fans come out of the woodwork to bemoan every single new Trek.
It wouldn't be Trek if there was no disagreement.
(....I'm the furthest thing from a Dudebro (tm), but I was targeting that particular demographic! So thank you for the writing compliment...)
So it's basically the same as TOS? Excellent!
Can we not just let people have opinions without accusing them of gaslighting?
Not when I've seen this very same post dozens of times about this very same show on that other network.
Can we not assume everyone is telling the truth on the internet? That's how we get cults.
We're talking about a TV show and you're acting like it's some crazy conspiracy that people like it.
When millions of dollars are at stake in the streaming wars, and I see dozens of near-zero-cost posts about how "this is exactly the Trek all us old Trek fans have been waiting for dudbebrodudes!! It's so amazingly goodlier than other stuff!" on reddit and now on lemmy, you're damn right I am.
This show is badly-written CW schlock. It ignores canon, it is utterly devoid of coherent, consistent writing, and it lacks any of the soul of TOS, TNG, DS9, and at least most of VOY.
It is not good trek, and I will argue to the fucking death with the idea it is.
Lower Decks actually has the soul (not to mention the classic structure) of Star Trek, even as a parody.
SNW is only slightly less-abysmal than DIS. At least it still isn't as bad as Picard.
You're welcome to your opinion.
Yes corporate shills are coming to lemmy of all places to astroturf, I bet they're all over usenet and dialup BBS as well
You have a point, but it got lost in the assholery of your reply. I too long for a little more of the hard SciFi and morality tales of Star Trek. The writers/producers try too hard to explore characters & relationships rather than the cool things that we can see/learn while exploring the galaxy - - all those strange new worlds.
Yep, aside literally one episode for about, what, 15 seconds, we saw some strange new aliens.
And yes I've been very jaded against the gaslighting about these shows thanks to the brutal subjugation of the reddit sub. I've seen fake gushing over these shows too many times, and I just pictured poor Wil Wheaton making the post.