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Wow, triggered much?
lol. no, but i'm not ashamed of my anger when it happens. is that what you think matters? being calmer than the other guy?
I think that being calm makes you more rational and allows you to see when you are wrong about something.
Listen to yourself. Saying things like "you took the wimpy boy bait"
If you knew how pathetic that makes you sound, you wouldn't say it.
I need to stop responding to you. You're such a troll.
believe it or not, it's not a troll. i'm seriously worried about most of you. you've lived in a padded, comfortable society for so long, you've lost sight of the larger historical narrative: most social change happens through violence. lots of people historically never saw it coming and were woefully unprepared when it did. most people don't seem to realize that the entire framework of our society is held together at gunpoint. the threat of violence is the thing that underlies any lawful society. it's what guarantees your rights.
and most of you are helpless to do anything about it when the people that do understand how it works decide to flex those muscles.
furthermore, your dependence on safety and security actually pads the way for your corporate overlords to determine what your life will be. it's not like they have to really worry about you fighting back. they know you're a bunch of cowards and it empowers them to push you around like the peasants that you seem to be willing to make yourselves into.
being rational means knowing what is the appropriate tool for the given task is. most of you seem irrationally unable to see that your peaceful and calm methods have failed to prevent the steady deterioration of the quality of life for the last 5 decades.
i'm not afraid of anger. anger is a motivator. anger gets shit done.
Yeah we've all seen 'V for Vendetta', it's really not that deep. You're acting like the average person doesn't understand this - but the implicit threat of violence is central to all human culture. It's impossible to miss. You're railing about how a strawman you've built for yourself can't wake up from it's complacent slumber, and it's distracted you from the truth; everyone already knows what you're preaching. You're not special for this realization, it's not a deep insight. People fight against it all the time, and we're winning, slowly. But it's called a culture war for a reason, and we know that we're going to lose some battles while we wage it.
Most people aren't helpless. Throughout history, populations have appeared unprepared for war because they did not want to fight that war. but time after time we see that a populace will retreat to violence as a solution when deprived of all other options. Your 'strong survive, weak perish' thing is so woefully oversimplified that it no longer resembles, even in abstract, the problems and supposed solutions that you then extrapolate from it.
are you? lol
for this the first time in human history, the average person has the tools in their pocket to organize on a massive scale. tired of conservative politics? show up en masse and dispose of the morons. tired of corporate overreach? bombs, terrified CEOs. we could make change happen in a heartbeat if we wanted to. the clock is ticking on climate change, but keep telling yourself you're making 'sLoW cHaNge'.
Not to cite my own horn here but I did address exactly what you're bringing up.
I should probably mention that I don't really disagree with your point, I just think that in holding your understanding of this issue as some unique insight instead of acknowledging that this has ever been the tragic irony of a peaceful society makes you come across as something of an edgy cretin instead of a fairly insightful commenter talking on an important subject they're passionate about. "All men are created equal", while both trite and rather out of touch with our modern sensibilities, is still important as a concept. You and I aren't special. I might have some largely unique insights about database structures you don't share, and you no doubt have some aspects I have never fathomed, but we are both the homogenized result of countless little insights and facets that average out to a blend which is both totally unique and yet uniformly conforming. If you start thinking you're special beyond the variation normal to that blend, then you're going to quickly lose your understanding of what an actual 'average person' really is like.
I hate to say it, but the way one presents their message is perhaps more important even than the actual content they're trying to present. Depressing, really, but... there it is.
well, unfortunately, cynicism has pretty much consumed me, so i kinda stopped caring about getting my message across a long time ago. i tried reasoning with conservatives until i realized how futile that was. then i tried reasoning with liberals about useless debate was until i realized how futile that was. i think i'm just here to yell at clouds now.