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How to buy music? (jemmy.jeena.net)
submitted 5 months ago by jeena@jemmy.jeena.net to c/music@beehaw.org
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It's frustrating to live in a world where streaming is the main way to consume music. I found this German band from Berlin called "Von Wegen Lisbeth" because of their son "Wenn du tantzt" which has great music and great text: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2JRghbgeYw

So I was thinking, it would be cool to buy the Album so I can listen to it. I normally buy and listen to albums not singles. But where do you buy it digitally? I don't want a CD or Vinyl because I live in Korea and I will need to move and don't want to deal with physical media.

I thought, in the past I found music on Bandcamp, so I went there and found https://vonwegenlisbeth.bandcamp.com but there they only sell their first album which doesn't have the song on it.

On their website https://www.vonwegenlisbeth.de/ they link to a shop where you can seemingly buy all their albums: https://krasserstoff.com/vonwegenlisbeth#merchcat-vonwegenlisbeth-musik butonly on Vinyl and CD, not for download.

Then I thought perhaps I could just pirate it, but the band seems to be too small, they don't show up on The Pirate bay.

I checked Spotify and all their albums are there, but I don't want to pay a subscription every month.

Isn't it weird that you can't buy a digital copy of a bands music? Where do people buy music digital copies nowadays?

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[-] variants@possumpat.io 18 points 5 months ago

Contact them and ask them to update their bandcamp, if they are small they might reply to you and it should be pretty easy for them to do.

My friend is a musician hobbyist and had his music on spotify so I asked him to setup a band camp and he did it right away. After that I was able to buy his music and add it to my plex. I even updated thr music musicbrainz with his music info so plex could show it correctly

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 5 points 5 months ago

That's actually a great idea!

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 6 points 5 months ago

Thanks everyone for offering the albums to me. I looked around and I seem to be able to download them from YouTube too.

I was genuenly trying to find something like Bandcamp which would have more bands, because the next one is Paramore which I'd like to get their latest album. I at least hope that some of the money would go to the artists to make more music in the future.

[-] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago

Actually I have the same issue for years. I used to buy from Amazon and Bandcamp, but Amazon is...Amazon and Bandcamp does not offer most of the music I am listening.

If you do not want to scrape from YouTube here are their three albums, each as zip file with MP3 320 kbit/s: nextcloud link

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah exactly, Jeff Bezos really doesn't need more of my money. I wish bands would sell their music on their website somehow, like with stripe or something like that.

[-] pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Artists signed to bigger labels most likely will not get to Bandcamp. The greedy corporate suits want to control the supply of their product and imagine that letting people buy access to the actual files increases piracy. Or something like that.

I know you were against it in the post, but you could buy a CD, copy the files with a CD ripper (e.g. Exact Audio Copy) and then sell the CD second-hand if you don't want to keep it.

Remember to also take backups of your digital music library! Preferably on two different locations, so your home burning down will not kill your collection.

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 4 points 5 months ago

I'm having a backup in a external hard USB hard drive, off site on a Synology at my parent's house, and then I sync the music to my two phones, two laptops and to my server. I guess this is enough ^^

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 3 points 5 months ago

There are several reasons why I don't want a physical CD:

  1. I have no space for it
  2. I don't want to carry it when I move
  3. It's a lot of work to sell it
  4. I need to pay shipment around the world to Korea
  5. The production and shipment creates unnecessary CO2, so it's even bad for the environment
[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 2 points 5 months ago

Nextcloud, hell yeah!

[-] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago

Yessss

[-] Ilandar@aussie.zone 6 points 5 months ago

Then I thought perhaps I could just pirate it, but the band seems to be too small, they don’t show up on The Pirate bay.

Their music is downloadable through Soulseek, including that particular song you mentioned.

[-] Radiant_sir_radiant@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

I live in Switzerland, where downloading copyrighted material for personal use is legal, so your situation may differ. If I don't find what I'm looking for in a DRM-free store, on eMule and on the high seas, I just download it from YouTube. The quality is not the best but usually sufficient. Try the NewPipe app on Android (if applicable) or https://de.savefrom.net/ - be aware that the latter should only be visited with a good ad blocker and antivirus.

[-] Templa@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

I usually buy on bandcamp, more specifically on bandcamp fridays.

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago

I used to buy my music on Amazon Music when they offered downloads, but now I buy on iTunes and convert to mp3.

[-] beefcat@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

why would you do a lossy to lossy conversion when verything under the sun can play aac natively?

[-] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 months ago

Amazon still sells mp3s that you can download.

[-] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 3 points 5 months ago

Buy a CD and rip it.

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 3 points 5 months ago

There are several reasons why I don't want a physical CD:

I have no space for it

I don't want to carry it when I move

It's a lot of work to sell it

I need to pay shipment around the world to Korea

The production and shipment creates unnecessary CO2, so it's even bad for the environment

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 2 points 5 months ago

I get that, but it does seem like you're getting at the point of niche where you'll either be finding a torrent of it online, or manually ripping the disc yourself.

You can always sell the disc or donate it, since you'd have backed up digital copies. Maybe you can better justify the downsides of shipping by allowing their catalogue to be available in your area, even if it's only a single copy for someone else to have. You could also alleviate some of those problems if they have more than just the one album/song that you want, as you'd be getting a few albums shipped instead of just one.

However, I do think there is one avenue left to explore for you. Have you tried reaching out to them personally? You may be able to just get in contact with them via social media or e-mail, and they may just hook you up and get your situation sorted. In any case, if this doesn't work out I would genuinely suggest oredering from their store and having it shipped, ripping it, and having it be available for someone else via donation/sale/local library, while not ideal, isn't entirely wasteful either.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

its either bandcamp or qobuz and if they dont have it (usually dont in my case) i either download off of youtube or buy a cd. discogs has a shitton of cds they usually always have what i am looking for

[-] theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

I'm not really sure if they cover the genres you are looking for but worth a look I guess as additional options.

Beatport and Juno

[-] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Buy the CD or vinyl to support the band (or directly make a donation) and rip the audio from Spotify (spotydown) or youtube (yt-dl)

[-] Praxinoscope@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Buying a modern record on vinyl often comes with a code to download the digital version in a high quality format. Check the item description to see if it's included. You could buy it, download the music, and then sell the record to a local shop or donate it if you can't keep it when you travel.

Alternatively, buy the CD and use a disk drive, if you have access to one, to rip the music into a computer.

[-] mormund@feddit.de 2 points 5 months ago

Note that they are from Korea. I assume shipping from Germany will be insanely high

[-] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

You don't.

[-] beefcat@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

there are lots of digital music stores.

[-] toothpicks@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

As another person mentioned I would get in touch with them 😀

[-] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 2 points 5 months ago

Hi, yeah I did yesterday and asked them to put their other Albums on Bandcamp too.

[-] toothpicks@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

Yay awesome!

[-] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago

If you want I can send you my CD rips as MP3 files. I have EZ Aquarii and sweetlilly93@hotmail :)

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