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[-] bahmanm@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 year ago

When i read the title, my immediate thought was "Mojolicious project renamed? To a name w/ an emoji!?" 😂


We plan to open-source Mojo progressively over time

Yea, right! I can't believe that there are people who prefer to work on/with a closed source programming language in 2023 (as if it's the 80's.)

... can move faster than a community effort, so we will continue to incubate it within Modular until it's more complete.

Apparently it was "complete" enough to ask the same "community" for feedback.

I genuinely wonder how they managed to convince enthusiasts to give them free feedback/testing (on github/discord) for something they didn't have access to the source code.


PS: I didn't downvote. I simply got upset to see this happening in 2023.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Ew, their claimed benchmarking is ridiculously biased. “We completely restructured the algorithm to be more efficient, so our language is faster than yours.” and “We ran our benchmarks on a faster computer than we ran the Python benchmarks.” Not a good look to lie through your teeth like that.

[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They also claimed to be faster than C++ in the beginning, but they failed to mention that the C++ code was unoptimized single-thread code while the Mojo version was SIMD-vectorized and multithreaded. It's only after people criticized them for that that they started calling the C++ code "scalar C++". Scientific rigor is lacking in their benchmarks.

[-] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean I know they promised to do it, but it's sad that they still haven't open-sourced the toolchain. The naming is awkward though, I'd have loved if they called it Python++ instead as it's supposed to be a superset of Python and would have made it easier to present to your boss.

[-] nicman24@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

it is not an opensource toolchain? lmao none will actually use it.

[-] Rescuer6394@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

well i don't think you are supposed to. is still full beta, no debugger.

i think this is just for their community to test stuff on.

[-] nicman24@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Nahh fam I m good

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

Just tell your boss it's Python++.

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