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I'm developing a game that very closely mimics the gameplay of the ghost minigame from Nintendo Land. I'm not including Nintendo characters, names, etc.

Is there any precedent of Nintendo going after people for something like this?

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[-] saintshenanigans@programming.dev 22 points 4 months ago

Palworld is still up. Make your own assets, and don't use any nintendo names, you'll be fine

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Nexomon is a better example

[-] saintshenanigans@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Palworld literally recreated nintendo assets. Nexomon just copied the concept of pokemon.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

I’m developing a game that very closely mimics the gameplay

The post

[-] saintshenanigans@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago

And ripping off assets is much more likely to get you in legal trouble than just making a game in the same genre. Wtf are you on about bro

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

If you’re giving an example then it should be relevant to the question

[-] saintshenanigans@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago

Good thing i did, then! Thanks for the feedback!

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

No see, the gameplay is what OP is worried about and your example wasn’t an example of a gameplay clone

[-] saintshenanigans@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Jesus alright dude be pedantic

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

As far as I'm aware you cannot copyright game mechanics. The only instance of a copyright of a mechanic I'm aware of is from a lord of the rings leveling system (can't remember the name off the top of my head)

[-] GeekyOnion@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

I think it was their “nemesis system” or something like that.

[-] Charzard4261@programming.dev 11 points 4 months ago

There has been several game "mechanics" that have been patented in the past. Two examples I know off the top of my head are "overhead arrows that point in the direction of the destination" and "minigames during loading screens".

That said, these were applied for specifically as patents in the US, and every other game made does not go through this process (especially since I doubt that this would worm in this day and age... I hope, wtf is going on across the pond) especially for entire game concepts, and OP is definitely in the clear.

[-] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

They at least tried to patent the Tears of the Kingdom Zonai manipulation mechanic if I remember right

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If it doesn't clone assets of their game then Nintendo legally can't do anything. Gameplay elements are not protected like that.

[-] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago

Nintendo is pretty rabid about their IPs, they would personally deliver a cease and desist to a toddler drawing a Switch with crayons on cardboard, but if you mean this minigame, then you’ll probably be fine.

It seems so generic, if you really use nothing that belongs to Nintendo and maybe tweak the physics a little bit, it should pass at least as legally distinct.

And frankly, the game devs probably also took the idea from somewhere else, as I said, the mechanic seems pretty generic.

[-] miracleorange@beehaw.org 8 points 4 months ago

Almost everything they've taken down has been for name/character/assets reasons: Pokémon Uranium, AM2R, etc. Something like Ship of Harkinian, a source port of Ocarina of Time, doesn't provide any Nintendo assets and hasn't been taken down yet. To my extremely limited knowledge, gameplay generally isn't copyrightable unless it's specifically been patented for some reason, so I think you're in the clear.

[-] Donut@leminal.space 8 points 4 months ago

Nah, you can't patent gameplay mechanics unless they are super specific and interconnected.

Taking what's good from other games and turning it into something new (or similar) is known as remixing and it happens all the time. Like mentioned in another comment, Palworld did this by taking the fun elements of different genres / vibes (Pokémon, Survival games, Shooters) and making that into a game.

Even the Pokémon Company had to put a statement out basically telling the Xitter drama seekers to shut up and stop reporting the game for infringement, because there wasn't any.

Just make sure (like you already mention) not to use assets, sounds, names and other IP related subjects.

[-] xanu@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

It still grinds my gears that Warner Bros. patented the Nemesis System they used in their shadow of war/Mordor games. I'd love a whole genre of those kinds of games with different settings and themes.

[-] sleepyTonia@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Even in their case, the phrasing within their patent form is fairly specific to their games. Unless one completely clones the system, I would be surprised if they got legal trouble for it. Better to check with a qualified lawyer of course.

[-] Donut@leminal.space 1 points 4 months ago

Care to elaborate what makes it so special? I'm intrigued and I never really play licensed games because they are usually trash

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

The games have a number of captains, and they will sometimes fight among themselves. The winner will get stronger and level up. The player can attack these captains, too, who may have a strong point or a weakness. If the player dies while fighting, the captain grows stronger and will taunt the player on a rematch. If the player manages to make the captain flee and live, he may develop a fear for the player

There are many things that can define the captains, such as fears (of the player, of fire, of wargs), weaknesses (to stealth, to arrows, to fire) and even immunities (to arrows, to stealth, you get the drill)

Also, if the player dies to an unamed orc, said orc will become a captain. I vaguely remember some captains coming back to life, if they weren't decapitated on the killing blow. They return weaker, but will comment on wanting revenge.

As a final note, Shadows of Mordor is a pretty fun game. Think of it as Assassin's Creed exploration with Batman Arkham City combat. Not the most faithful game to Tolkien's work, but it's good.

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