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If you're worried about how AI will affect your job, the world of copywriters may offer a glimpse of the future.

Writer Benjamin Miller – not his real name – was thriving in early 2023. He led a team of more than 60 writers and editors, publishing blog posts and articles to promote a tech company that packages and resells data on everything from real estate to used cars. "It was really engaging work," Miller says, a chance to flex his creativity and collaborate with experts on a variety of subjects. But one day, Miller's manager told him about a new project. "They wanted to use AI to cut down on costs," he says. (Miller signed a non-disclosure agreement, and asked the BBC to withhold his and the company's name.)

A month later, the business introduced an automated system. Miller's manager would plug a headline for an article into an online form, an AI model would generate an outline based on that title, and Miller would get an alert on his computer. Instead of coming up with their own ideas, his writers would create articles around those outlines, and Miller would do a final edit before the stories were published. Miller only had a few months to adapt before he got news of a second layer of automation. Going forward, ChatGPT would write the articles in their entirety, and most of his team was fired. The few people remaining were left with an even less creative task: editing ChatGPT's subpar text to make it sound more human.

By 2024, the company laid off the rest of Miller's team, and he was alone. "All of a sudden I was just doing everyone's job," Miller says. Every day, he'd open the AI-written documents to fix the robot's formulaic mistakes, churning out the work that used to employ dozens of people.

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[-] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 81 points 4 months ago

Pretty dystopian article.

But this will continue, until oligarchs like Altman, Cook, Nadella etc. start getting put into difficult situations; ones that create very strong incentives for them to show humanity (or at least emulate it).

[-] toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl 74 points 4 months ago

It's never the managers who suffer first, is it?

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 months ago

It's never the upper managent but they don't actually do anything but landlord. Lower managers are being replaced by bots that police the bottom rung workers.

Anyhow when AI was very not working right at all the ownership class were eager to replace creative workers even then, so we we've known for over a year or two they're gunning to end creative work and replace it with menial work.

I don't know what the Mahsa Amini moment is going to be to spark the general worker uprising, but news about the conditions being right comes in every day.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 4 points 4 months ago

Human condition... The water flows down

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 4 months ago

That’s not water

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

When your profession is to be a nice guy, and your protocols of communicating with others are not strictly regulated, replacement is not an easily solvable task.

Bu-ut I think that'll eventually happen too. Or more precisely, things allowing a company to reduce workforce that much allow self-employed people to take a certain niche.

Unless for copyright and CP protection self-employment gets banned.

[-] chakan2@lemmy.world 49 points 4 months ago

But these people who are getting paid to humanise AI are fantastic opportunists. Sure, it's not a great job, but they have effectively recognised a new seat at a moment when we're redefining the idea of productivity.

That's fucking soul crushing.

We just fired you to hire this machine, however, if you'd like to stick around and edit for it, we will pay you 1/4 to 1/2 your current rate.

Jesus...fuck that guy.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago

The human serfs will have to proofread increasingly voluminous, numerous and complex output from ai systems. The product has become the master. Until the systems develop a sense of 'truth' beyond numerical statistics, generative ai is pretty much a toy.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Until the systems develop a sense of ‘truth’ beyond numerical statistics, generative ai is pretty much a toy.

I'll start by saying I am pro-worker, pro-99%, pro-human.

Now, I must refute your assertion for specific domains (and specific working styles), e.g. translation (or a preference for editing over drafting/coding from a blank page). If money used to hit your bank account every two weeks because you translated or provided customer service for a company, and now that money doesn't come in anymore, it wouldn't feel too playful or like a toy is involved.

This is today, not "until" any future milestone.

Re-sharing some screenshots I took a month or so back, below.


November 2022: ChatGPT is released

April 2024 survey: 40% of translators have lost income to generative AI - The Guardian

Also of note from the podcast Hard Fork:

There’s a client you would fire… if copywriting jobs weren’t harder to come by these days as well.

Customer service impact, last October:

And this past February - potential 700 employee impact at a single company:

If you’re technical, the tech isn’t as interesting [yet]:

Overall, costs down, capabilities up (neat demos):

Hope everyone reading this keeps up their skillsets and fights for Universal Basic Income for the rest of humanity :)

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Air Canada did that too. Only the lack of precision made offers to customers they weren't prepared to honor.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Have to wonder how much Klarna invested in their tech, assuming they're not big ole fibbers

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Fibbing for investors and big tech. Name a more iconic duo?

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

I think retrieval augmentation and fine tunning are the biggest tools to the results more refined (or better reference a document as a source of truth). The other ironically is just regular deterministic programming.

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[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 months ago

Welcome to the new Industrial Revolution, where one person can do the work of many. Sure, mass produced ~~goods~~content aren't as good as handmade artisanal ~~products~~ writing, but there's a huge market for it.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

There really isn't though. Very very few writers live off of writing alone.

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[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

Huge market for generated text? Can you point out where that market is?

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 4 months ago

Absolutely, I maintained a bunch of small business websites in the 2010s and they all had blogs attached to them, they paid people to write generic articles about nutrition or whatever just so they'd get the SEO boost out of it from Google.

No one was reading these articles. No one cares about these articles. But posting them was very important for Google to rank you higher then your competitors.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

That's parasitism give or take, I meant - market of some real need.

[-] sunzu@kbin.run 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah that's what i am kinda shooing for. a lot of these jobs related to big tech ad eco system, it is very hard for me to care... but i also know they are coming for everyone too lol

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

a lot of these jobs related to big tech ad eco system

That's military logic in some sense. That ecosystem makes many people dependent on it. The "I use it like everyone else, but I hate it and I'll stop if it crashes" argument is wrong. The whole mass of that ecosystem is comprised of such people.

but i also know they are coming for everyone too lol

It's an old story. Most of this thing's optimization potential lies in a few niche areas. It can't be put where you need precision or reliability. It can't be put where a statistical guess about human decision is insufficient. And it can't be put where you need a human because of, sorry, smiles and nice bodies being required.

It won't be like the industrial revolution, because that optimized real production, very solid basic necessary jobs. This is optimizing billboard ads and newspaper boys, and people who make things we already try not to pay attention to.

It may make some other workplaces a bit more efficient. And I agree that oligopoly, every piece of base (territory and natural resources) being already owned and technological progress, combined, lead to a bleak future.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Some people dig the holes some people fill them. Everyone greatful for the job.

If search engine fix the bullshit signifers the fake would dry up.

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[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 16 points 4 months ago

Like he said at the end, nobody is reading the garbege.

I think is something g is written by AI the only way to read it is to make another AI to read it and summerize it. Then you still can decide to read the summary or not.

[-] erwan@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

It's probably replacing garbage written by humans that nobody was reading either.

So in this case, garbage content that nobody reads, AI is probably a good idea.

[-] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 4 months ago

Yeah, the guy's team was writing "articles and blog posts promoting a tech company".

Letting an LLM mangle that isn't exactly a huge loss.

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Was this labor even needed in the first place?

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago

It wasn't. It's the advertising\SEO industry, I think. Which is advertisers scamming clients who want to get clients, without clear feedback, and website owners scamming advertisers by sending their way occasional clicks.

Basically irritating garbage, 99% yielding fucks and adblocker installations, 1% yielding unconscious recognition of product and some monies going back. Apparently it's profitable.

[-] dave@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago

I guess the company was providing a kind of UBI? Not sure what will happen when all of those non-jobs disappear…

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

There’s nothing inherently wrong with doing quality assurance work, but I think the workers are being fooled into thinking it’s less valuable work than their old job. In fact, based on QA in other industries, I’d say these workers should be getting paid more. This is why unions are important, otherwise people just get fooled or bullied into accepting bad deals

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