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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 76 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is Alfred slander. He's the only person on Earth who can slap sense into fucking Batman, not some old fuck who should have been in hospice care two years ago

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago

He's the only aged gentleman who will headbutt supes in the nose.

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[-] abracaDavid@lemmy.today 52 points 2 months ago

Terrible analogy.

This is the goddamn DNC's fault. They are allergic to supporting anyone that's not an old school establishment Democrat.

Give us a suitable candidate. Biden is too old and everyone knows it.

Give us someone that is actually progressive and that actually wants to help the American people. We have a few very obvious issues that neither of our geriatric overlords are addressing.

  1. ADDRESS CLIMATE CHANGE. This is the most important one. Just do something. Anything. Nothing is being done and it's getting hotter every year.

  2. Lower the cost of living. Rent is out of control. Food costs are out of control. It's hard to live right now. Protect US citizens from corporate greed.

  3. Fix the real estate market. Most of us will never be able to own a house because several corporations have been allowed to run amok. Make it so the average person can buy a house.

  4. Healthcare for all. It's not complicated.

  5. Stop the genocide.

Put someone forward with this obvious and simple platform, and I promise they win.

We are not married to Biden. Get us someone younger. Why is this so hard?

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
  1. During Biden’s first term, we’ve made several of the biggest steps toward addressing climate change, ever
  2. Biden has made huge steps, despite congressional opposition, in making education and healthcare more affordable
  3. The real estate and rental prices are local, and some of us live where our local politicians are at least trying
[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 25 points 2 months ago

Yeah, Biden has done a lot of really good shit. The president only has so much power.

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 months ago

The fact the office of the president has to be likened to Alfred to make sense is quite underhanded and indicative of a greater issue.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

And yet the most pressing issue right now is Alfred vs. Joker. It's one or the other unless something drastic changes. So pick Alfred and then work on the next problem.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

The 'next' problems are concurrent, unfortunately.

The GOP may very well wind up with a veto proof Congress at this rate and it will all be for nought.

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[-] 4am@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago

No, but you DO replace him.

[-] xenoclast@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Yup. But you deal with one problem at a time. Right now we have a real Joker problem with immediate and dire consequences.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Following your analogy to its logical conclusion, we're about to send Alfred out to take care of this Joker problem. It seems like we should find a Batman instead, or at least a Robin, before Alfred gets his ass handed to him.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Bro have you seen Alfred fight?

The problem would not be Alfred losing, it would be stopping him from plugging the Joker like an out of charge phone because he has made very clear that he does not share Batman's distaste for firearms.

This whole discussion is itself a metaphor, the people who are the most worried are the ones who understand the least about who they're talking about.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago
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[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 9 points 2 months ago

This was the first time in Batman history that The Joker got to be Gotham major?

It's so genius, that made me believe it's already happened before.

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[-] enleeten@discuss.online 23 points 2 months ago

It's unfair to compare Trump to the Joker. The Joker is a strategic and tactical and logistical genius, he didn't inherit his position from "Papa Clown Show" and pretend to be good at what he does.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 22 points 2 months ago

Who cares if they die day 1 in office? It's about which party is in charge.

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

It's about which person is not going to have and abuse his Presidential power.

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[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Ok yeah, but that doesn't mean we need to choose Alfred to do the actual fighting against the Joker. Instead, it's perfectly OK to say "Hey Alfred, let Batman handle the Joker, you watch and provide advice if you're needed."

[-] fukurthumz420@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

batman's not running for president. time to face reality.

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The false dichotomy fallacy here is that we don't have to choose either. There is still time to pick Robin. Younger; more charismatic; still moral.

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Whitmer. Shapiro. Newsom, even.

Before anyone tries to claim polls show they wouldn't do better than Biden against Trump let me remind people that this is without them having the endorsement of the dnc or the inevitable viral media attention they'd receive from endorsements from Obama or Biden himself. They'd surge overnight.

You know who isn't surging? Biden. He's been steadily declining in every single data-point, and the debate didn't help.

So you know what 70% of voters have a problem with? How old the two current candidates are.

Give them what they want. Give Americans new exciting shit to vote for. This is the country that watches the Kardashians and American Idol for christ sake.

[-] sushibowl@feddit.nl 14 points 2 months ago

Maybe. On the other hand, changing out your candidate after one debate doesn't inspire much confidence. And you lose the advantage a sitting president usually has in elections.

A new candidate might indeed do better, but the DNC is risk averse as hell. I don't see them having the balls to make a move like this.

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[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

We absolutely cannot trust the DNC to not make the same mistake they made in 2016. But you are not wrong

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[-] blazera@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

So, this happened in the comics and show, alfred got older and passed away, bruce wayne retired as batman, he managed the batcave, and a younger protege took up the batman mantle.

I dont know what this malarkey is about thinking someone cant be too old for a job.

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[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

They be like: your options are a shit sandwich or getting shot in the head.

When all along your options are every other food too, they just removed them from the menu.

You still should pick the shit sandwich over the shot to the head, but you should as hell be mad at both the one who would pull the trigger and the ones who left you with a shit sandwich as the viable alternative.

Eat the sandwich, remove the trigger man then go after the restaurant owners.

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[-] neoman4426@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago

Seems like such an odd comparison. Alfred Pennyworth is a certified badass, he would absolutely keep Wayne Manor and the Batcave both managed and defended until the day he dies if he wishes to.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Alfred is not a certified badass in every version of Batman. In fact, that's generally a rather recent thing.

[-] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 12 points 2 months ago

Yeah, this analogy just stinks, as a comic book fan...

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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

Ah, yes, Jimmy Kimmel. The voice of reason.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Compared to Trump, virtually anyone is the voice of reason.

[-] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

They knew in 2020 that Joe was slipping but instead of trying to solve the problem then they did nothing but cover up the obvious issues. To go with the metaphor, Alfred was a good man doing the right thing. The modern Democrat party has no Alfred. Instead they now seems to care more about their party's own power over the actual good of the country. Very few people wanted Joe in 2020 but we were told we vote him in to save democracy and then run someone better in 2024. Now here we are going through the same loop. No, if the Democratic party refuses to run a candidate that the people want then we've already lost our democracy. Our two party only system is already a joke and it allows those in power to do whatever they want with the looming threat that the other team will destroy America. I'm sorry to say but the Joker is already in charge.

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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

Doing away with First Past The Post voting will allow us to choose a different, better option.

[-] Delusional@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

A joker who is just as old as Alfred.*

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

But you also don't have Alfred as the one suiting up to fight the Joker either.

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