354
top 23 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] AuroraZzz@lemmy.world 79 points 3 months ago

Is this bc weather reports affirm climate change, and having the weather report doctored will help oil and coal companies pollute as much as they want without public backlash?

[-] sprack@lemmy.world 99 points 3 months ago

It’s because the person that owns AccuWeather has been lobbying since Trump’s first term to close NOAA and give his company a monopoly on it. Selling forecasts, data and access back to everyone while using resources paid for by taxpayers.

[-] water@lemmy.world 73 points 3 months ago
[-] sprack@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago

Thank you for that link. NWS and NOAA deserve all the support we can give them.

[-] GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world 53 points 3 months ago

It's because they would charge you for air if they could.

[-] massacre@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

que no los dos?

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago

The party of working Americans. /s

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Sharpies are cheaper

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 44 points 3 months ago

The goodwill and excellent PR that an accurate weather service generates is worth a huge ammount of money which is why private companies want it.

I remember the Cold War documentary series called "Cold War" (utterly amazing documentary series by the way: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3H6z037pboGWTxs3xGP7HRGrQ5dOQdGc ), in one episode they interviewed the guy running Radio Free Europe who was very clear with how they got listeners from the east was with good solid news and accurate weather forcasts.

Weather forcasts is probably one of the best sources of content to legitimize propaganda, it is very easy to check, and quickly develop a reputation. There is also zero incentive to embellish the weather report as it will quickly make you look incompetent.

[-] memfree@lemmy.ml 42 points 3 months ago

It further notes that scientific agencies such as NOAA are “vulnerable to obstructionism of an Administration’s aims,” so appointees should be screened to ensure that their views are “wholly in sync” with the president’s.

do we want flood-risk predictions sponsored by a flood-insurance company, or heat advisories from an air-conditioning conglomerate?

The agency is home to one of the most significant repositories of climate data on Earth, which includes information on shifting atmospheric conditions and the health of coastal fisheries, plus hundreds of thousands of years’ worth of ice-core and tree-ring data.

Eliminating or privatizing climate information won’t eliminate the effects of climate change. It will only make them more deadly.

Tell people 2025 would do this. No federal weather means local counties would have to pay Big Business for tornado/hurricane warnings. We'd pay more for fish because fishermen can't get data unless they pay. Plane schedules become even less reliable AND cost more because the government stops tracking upper level wind speeds.

Look: we want people who get a salary for doing accurate work rather than people who get paid to say whatever the bossman want to hear. Ask people to imagine how it would work if Google, NBC, Amazon, and Fox each sunk the money for trying to replicate the existing infrastructure and then sold pieces of it to paying customers -- such as Allstate, CBS, and Delta Airlines. Everyone else would have to HOPE they were getting complete data and have to wonder what was missing. Noticing record highs and lows would become proprietary and forbidden from broadcast in a way akin to being disallowed from referencing "The Superbowl" unless you pay for a license. How's any of that going to make things better?

P.S. This article is posted to several communities, so I'm reiterating this post repeatedly.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 17 points 3 months ago

. . . so appointees should be screened to ensure that their views are “wholly in sync” with the president’s.

This is what ultimately kills fascism when everything else fails. People in high positions are chosen for loyalty first and competence a distant second. Combine that with eating each other in purity contests, and you have a political philosophy that's doomed from the start.

Only question is how much damage it does to everything else before it completes the cycle.

[-] memfree@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

-- but doing it in the first place is a symptom of fascism and other repressive systems. It's the sort of crap that ruins anything where data is important... tho musicians screening who's gonna join their band might be alright.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yep, at the end of the day government is a combination of the exciting and political with the boring, necessary, and apolitical. The former gets you in, but you better not fuck up the latter or you’re lucky if you just lose power.

[-] Sigh_Bafanada@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

In fairness, I would was flood risk warnings from flood insurance companies. The more you lose, the more they have to pay out. It's in their interests to give up to date flood warnings

[-] memfree@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Point taken, but would they warn non-customers? Would they bother making forecasts for rural areas or other places where it wasn't cost-effective for the number of properties they insure?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Yeah, you wouldn't want the weather report to contradict the president with a map and a sharpie.

[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago

Make America Grift Again

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 months ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

The irony of a news article about hiding a public necessity behind a paywall being hidden behind a paywall 🤦

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago
[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago
[-] Alatarius@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 3 months ago

Does anyone have a non-paywall link?

[-] cdf12345@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

https://archive.ph/MaxAY

Archive.ph can get around nearly all paywalls

this post was submitted on 17 Jul 2024
354 points (98.9% liked)

News

23297 readers
3787 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS