Happening in Germany right now, we are at step 2
Step 3. The CDU knew the AfD would vote with them (and without the nazi votes they wouldn't have been able to pass this legislation).
seems like we learned nothing.
For what it's worth, this lasted longer tha Weimar. So we did get better and all it took was losing everything and decades of occupation and a huge Cold War where both sides kinda needed us as the battlefield.
Modern Germany has much stronger checks and balances than Weimar though right?
those can be removed easily once in power and the "conservatives" have blocked probes into police violence and systemic racism as well as fascist terrorist groups inside the police for decades. So if the constitutional court rules against such a government it is very well possible that they just get ignored or worse attacked by the government.
Democracy doesnt survive through laws and institutions. It survives through the people involved in the political and governmental processes to uphold. And the German "conservative" parties are happy to hurt democracy if it gets them back into power and to do the equivalent of "owning the libs". They have considerably radicalized and are trying to do things like Trump did.
We are at step 4.
Step 4 was skipped. We're either at 3 with what happened in Thüringen this week or 5 (also Thüringen, Landkreis Sonneberg).
Hello from Germany. We just passed step 3.
I wouldn't worry. We're Germans. We're genetically incapable of voting fascists into power.
Yeah not like thats ever happened before in Germany
4 already
Sweden currently has a right-wing government supported by the Nazis (the SD party, who have roots in Sweden’s WW2-era NSDAP affiliates, though vigorously deny being Nazis), who are still considered too much of a hot potato to let into the government proper, so they have to have their offices outside the government building of the parliament and launder their policy ideas through the mainstream right-wing parties. Most of the policies thus laundered can be summed up as “make Greta Thunberg cry”: cutting diesel taxes, scrapping high-speed rail plans, and just now scrapping the plastic-bag surcharge, a move that has no purpose other than to be culture-war red meat. (Make Greta Cry are the only culture-war issues they can agree on; beyond that, they’re coming to blows on things like Pride flags/LGBT rights and such.) Other than that, they’ve bringing in tougher requirements for Swedish citizenship, but not much more than that.
Theoretically, if the right gets re-elected in 2026, it’s possible that the Nazis (the largest party among them) will be in government proper, or even that their Reichsführer Jimmie Åkesson (a mediagenic stuffed shirt good at making a motley crew of thugs and bigots look like “citizens with legitimate concerns”) would be prime minister. In practice, the right are tanking in polling, and it’s not getting any better for them, and a Socialdemokraterna-led centre-left coalition is likely to be the next government. Of course, a lot can happen between now and then, but short of a Riksdag fire or 9/11-style spectacle, I can’t see them turning this around easily, as it has become painfully apparent that a significant proportion of the coalition are cretins.
For those who aren't familiar with Swedish domestic politics: this is a good example of why you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet. The parent comment appears to be written in bad faith and borders disinformation.
The Sweden Democrats/Sverigedemokraterna, which the poster is referring to as nazis, have always been advocaters for a more strict migration policy. Apart from that they are pretty much aligned in the middle.
The actual nazi party (Nordiska Motståndsrörelsen) got 847 votes (0,01%) in the 2022 riksdag election and the poster knows this. Alternativ För Sverige/AfS, the closet nazis and where most people draw the actual line for the extreme right, got 16 646 votes (0,26%). Data from The Swedish Election Authority
Finland at the final step. One of current ruling parties is a populist conservative one with openly racist views. And our right wing parties are sucking their dicks cause together they can bash some unions. A fucking disgrace.
That strategy worked out great for Germany in the early 20th century. What could go wrong?!
Over here in germany we have already arrived at step #3 again, yay! (at least at state-level in thuringia)
...I want to get off Mr bones' wild ride
French here, we are currently oscillating between steps 3, 4 and 5 and we get closer to 6 each year :/
Sweden? Somebody's confusing countries. That's exactly what's happening in Germany now.
There must not be any party to the right of the CSU!
But more importantly, no coalition with the Green party!
And in every europe country.
We're already at step 5 in the Netherlands unfortunately..
Awesome. There won't be a European war against fascism this time because France, Germany, Italy, the UK and Poland will be on the same side this time. Good to hear that the Dutch will be as well.
This is not depressing at all.
I'd like to add that both sides of the political spectrum caused their extreme growth. There was a huge storm of dissatisfaction regarding the immigration politics and at one point I recall our government sponsored news channel showing statistics of about 70% of Swedens citizens were asking for reducing it as it was unsustainable. During this time the centrist right leader held a speech about how "this current situation will cost us a LOT of money, but we need to open our hearts" while the left flat out ignored the problems and said we were a "Humanitarian great power" and stated we were getting highly educated doctors and professors.
The only party that spoke against it was the extreme right, and any mention of anti-immgration caused a massive shitstorm by any other political party that refused to touch the subject. Quite obviously when you polarize the country and refuse to listen to your voters, they'll go to the party that DO.
I'm not defending or showing support for them, I'm just explaining how they're this big because of the arrogance and ignorance of the other parties. THEY made them big and now they have to work with them.
Germany is on #2, going strong to #3 atm
Hapenned in Brazil, but now center-right is bleeding votes to the right wing.
That's why I don't get how every single center-right party is going this way.
They hope to get votes back from radicalized people but in the end they make more people radical and then they vote for the "original" or "against the establishment"
Giving Nazis an inch just makes them take the next one, too until there's nothing left
I went to Europe after Trump was elected and everyone was oozing smug.
Tbh there is still a major difference between electing a guy like Trump and voting for a populist right-wing party.
I know little of Swedish politics. What defines someone has far right in Sweden?
Idk but probably the same as anywhere else. Racism, misogyny and a good portion of fear and hate for people that stick out in any way. Populism, simple thruths and wishing things were like at least a few decades ago.
Topics that work every time are crime and immigration.
Last time I checked, AFS was not in goverment. I would say that the "far-right" is voting more centrist now than when they first came to be, like the popular parties we have now. S doesnt support nazis anymore or work with race biology. All of this I would say is better than before, even tho I agree that some things still are a little too right-leaning right now
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