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Zelensky Threatens To Terrorise Europe (www.moonofalabama.org)
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Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues. And it would create risks for the West in its own backyard. There is no way of predicting how the millions of Ukrainian refugees in European countries would react to their country being abandoned. Ukrainians have generally “behaved well” and are “very grateful” to those who sheltered them. They will not forget that generosity. But it would not be a “good story” for Europe if it were to “drive these people into a corner”.

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[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Und like zhat, zhe ukronazi terror begins!

"I have seen such threats from low ranking individuals of the fascist Bandera fringe. They spoke of terrorism they would unleash in the West should it end its support for Ukraine. That the Ukrainian president now reinforces such threats shows how deeply he immersed himself in that mindset."

Man, can you really believe there are NAFO dogs who'll tell you directly to your face that Zelensky can't be Azov-tied, can't possibly be some fascist Banderite neonazi, simply because he's Jewish; like the entire state of Israel doesn't exist and isn't committing a straight up militant-genocidal Lebensraum as we speak? While also under the auspices of the United Satan?

[–] NothingButBits@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ukronazi terrorism would simply be a repeating of history. The US funded terrorists in the middle east, as a result got 9/11. France funded terrorists in Syria, as a result they got the Bataclan massacre and more. The EU is funding terrorists in Ukraine, see where this is going?

Sadly these people have learned nothing, and are also incapable of connecting the dots.

[–] DankZedong@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

With 9/11 and Syria you had at least non-white people attacking white people, which was beneficial for right wing rhetoric and such. I wonder what happens when the inevitable Ukrainian right wing extremists target people in Europe, which will probably be left wing people or outright the LGBTQ+ communities. There is no way for the right to spin an attack of white people on one of the groups they themselves continually demonize.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There is no way for the right to spin an attack of white people on one of the groups they themselves continually demonize.

"Homo sovieticus terrorist orcs attack freedom loving Europeans" and mind you: First, this will be after war when whatever remain of Ukraine will have to come to some kind of deal with Russia, so NATO will immediately declare them traitors to the "everything european". And second, it wouldn't be even first time when neocons, libs and all this united NATO scum will paint themselves rainbow and pose as the defenders of LGBTQ+ and leftists, and said western liberal LGBTQ+ and "leftists" will enthusiastically join that campaign, just as they are joining the current op.

[–] wombat@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

stalin shouldn't have stopped at berlin

[–] NotErisma@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I will never forget the response a lib doled out on me when I brought up Nazis making up the bulk of NATO committees (E.G Adolf Heusinger)

>yeah, okay

>that absolutely sucks but that alone can't categorically Ruin NATO

it's haunted me and I've since been fully convinced we really live in a spectacle.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Yep. Bring up Operation Gladio and the shit yanks did in Korea and Vietnam? "Yeah well we had to stop communism tho"

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm going to lose my mind once all the libs I know start claiming they never supported Ukraine.

[–] RedCat@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Screenshot and record everything. Make sure they will never forget.

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 2 years ago

Doesn't matter, same song and dance every time and they never learn. When they are given a new Cause to rally behind, they will even as they throw the last one under the bus.

"Yeah, they really fooled us with Ukraine, but THIS TIME we know that (probably China) is the real threat to humanity!"

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Truly wild that this is coming from him and not some kind of spooky RuZZian disinformation bot, it is predicated on the idea that Ukrainian refugees are a fifth column of stochastic terror just waiting to happen. Given these are the people who chose life over throwing themselves into the grinder out of nationalist fervour, I'm not convinced of that.

Is this meant as a threat that they sent a few dozen SBU among the refugees?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Is this meant as a threat that they sent a few dozen SBU among the refugees?

Most likely. You are correct that overwhelming most of Ukrainian economic migrants and refugees don't want to have nothing to do with that war, as observed by them not getting back to fight and UA government forbidding people to leave and trying to extradite those that left. But in case there is really SBU or other org terror in Europe, all Ukrainians in the EU will suddenly be treated like danger and the usual spiral of hatred and opression will follow, and those ordinary people will then be worked upon by the SBU to radicalize them further, textbook terrorist cell making straight from CIA manuals.

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

You [Zelensky] bark a lot, little doggy, but do you bite?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is incredibly insidious threat.

Not only to the Europe, but it's aimed at the Ukrainians in European countries. In general they have been very reluctant to go back to fight (hence the talk of extraditions currently ongoing). Those number in millions, so putting some sleeper cells among them is easy.

And what would happen after war, if there is sudden wave of terror attacks done by the Ukrainians? Entire Europe will turn into bloodthirsty r/Europe Hitler particle emitter in a blink.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it also an implied threat to Ukrainian refugees? Either come back and fight or we'll unleash the Anglo-European terror machine on you by turning your host nations against you with some terrorism.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Exactly, this is also what i meant by "insidious".

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Curtailing aid to Ukraine will only prolong the war, Mr Zelensky argues.

Without foreign military aid, how would Ukraine be able to prolong the conflict? An army with no weapons and rapidly dwindling manpower is hardly an army, they'd be forced to sue for peace.

Imagine begging for billions of dollars in aid and then threatening to somehow activate sleeper refugees as terrorists if countries don't comply. Would the refugees even listen, surely the vast majority of people fleeing the country aren't the nationalistic type. Otherwise they'd have been running in the other direction.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In theory they could turn it into a prolongued guerrilla warfare, although I'm not sure their leadership could rally people towards that.

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

Running terror groups would likely require less people - just look at the drone bombings of various Russian areas, the bombings of journalists (Darya Dugina and the fellow in Petersburg whose name I forgot), attempted bombing of Zakhar Prilepin all the way in Niznhy Novgorod region

[–] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

He's probably implying the widespread idea that "if putler is not stopped here, WHERE WIIIIIL HE STOOP??!!!". I'm sure you have seen a variation of it already. The notion that suing for peace is "appeasement" and if Russia is not crushed in Ukraine, its armies will march across Europe