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[-] 7upCoconut@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

When someone says "I seen".

No, you saw. Or you have seen.

It's like nails on a chalkboard to me.

[-] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ya that's not a sign uneducated imo. Infact, formal education has very little to do with how "educated" one is ime.

I didn't go to college. And most of my "peers" didn't either. But I wouldn't consider myself uneducated in the least.

Many of my peers use this term, and while "uneducated", many are far from dumb.

I'd consider it more of a dialect atp.

But I guess your right in that there is a higher chance they are kind of uneducated, but i think how you portray it comes off as pearl clutching, and sort of mean.

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[-] boatswain@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

Using "I" as the object instead of the subject, like saying "The waiter brought drinks to my friend and I."

[-] CalamariSafari@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Not listening to other people's opinions and ideas

[-] plumbus@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Insisting things like tax returns or household maintenance should be taught in school.

The goal of Education is not to train you to fit into the system you happen to grow up in, but should provide the foundation (litaracy, STEM, art …) and awaken the curiosity in yourself to become lifelong learner. That will develop society, and not a bunch of drones doing their tax returns and changing tires every season.

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[-] Jode@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I see this in a lot of places I do work:

Toolboxes covered in union stickers, AND Trump stickers...

[-] ekZeno@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

I would say "not the grammar" since many users are not native English speakers and have learned it as a second (or third, fourth...) language. 💁‍♂️🌏

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

They think opinions are facts.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Coming to absolutes and never admitting your faults

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Believing that capitalism lifts people out of poverty.

[-] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thinking about different languages in the terms of "useful" or "useless" according to the number of speakers they have.

Edit: What I mean specifically is not for someone to want or not to personally learn a language, but if the existance in itself of a language is more or less valuable according to how many people speak it (per example and as I explained below, believing that Occitan's existance is useless because there's already French to talk to Occitan people with, who already understand it). Yes, this happens.

[-] onlinely@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Why does this show lack of education over lack of interest in linguistics? I’ve studied linguistics, and I don’t categorize languages that way, but I could see how a pragmatist wouldn’t see value in learning Esperanto or Papiamento.

[-] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago

I think you misunderstand what I am referring to. I am not talking about a wish to learn a language, but to consider languages as useful or useless in regards to their entire existence.

This is unfortunately not very uncommon in people of European countries who look down upon regional languages, stating that their existence or that learning them is useless (not for them only, but for anyone) just because you can already do the task of communicating with others through the national language (per example, considering the existance of the Occitan language useless because the people of everywhere where it is spoken can already understand French). This is done by people who not understand (or even worse, who don't care about) the value that exists in language from a cultural perspective.

[-] onlinely@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

So interesting. Thank you for the perspective.

[-] Valbrandur@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Thank you.

I know this all sounds like Mandarin to most of the userbase of this place (which I suppose to be mainly from the US and alien to the politics of places where big regional languages exist in the same space than even larger national languages), but it's not only the attitude of some regular people but also of some major political forces. Just a few months ago, a far-right party in Spain vowed to shut down the Academy of Valencian Language if they ever reached power (something I suppose a linguist like you would never approve), under the excuse of its existence being "a threat to national unity".

Nationalism: not even once.

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