'If you want Donald Trump to win, then say that': Harris fires back at Gaza protesters at rally : usa

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 47 points 3 months ago

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 months ago

Trump existing is the biggest gift the Democrats have ever gotten and they still lost an election to him. Their fundraising skyrockets if Trump is involved on the other side and they don't have to do anything because they just keep yelling about the boogyman. It's exactly how Republicans use the immigration issue and how Netenyahu uses Hamas.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If Kamala doesn't want Trump to win, then she should probably do what the voters are asking of her. --Whatever that is. Not listening to the voters could make her the second person to ever lose a presidential campaign against Donald Trump which would make her utterly pathetic.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 3 months ago

I think the whatever that is is the problem. What would be enough in the israeli situation?

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[-] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 months ago

"Don't protest our complicity in genocide or else you'll lose democracy and freedom."

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[-] sunzu@kbin.run 19 points 3 months ago

Genocide will continue as schedule.

[-] curiousaur@reddthat.com 19 points 3 months ago

They don't want him to win, they want to push her on this issue.

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[-] funkforager@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 months ago

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[-] aleph@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They've pinned their hopes on her, because who else can they turn to? If your priority is campaigning for an end to the genocide, then of course you'd say that.

Sadly, her national security advisor just tweeted this today, so I'd say those of us who predicted Harris would just take Biden's policy and give it a more sympathetic face are already looking to be proven correct:

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 months ago

Womp womp

Can't say that I'm surprised, just disappointed.

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[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/25/statement-by-vice-president-kamala-harris-3/

She literally implied Jewish Americans protesting in DC were associates of Hamas and further implied they're Anti-Semites. This was just two weeks ago when Netanyahu was at the Capitol giving a speech to his clapping seals (a record number of standing ovations for genocide). What the fuck are you on about?

Mind you, we are talking about Kamala's statements. Not a random group's that nobody's ever heard of.

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[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

It'd be nice to hear it from her own mouth. Also, telling protestors to shut up like that is a bad look.

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Holy fuck it’s like everyone commenting on this post simply refuses to understand the deeply dismaying and unfortunate - but very real - amount of influence AIPAC has on the entirety of the US political system.

I agree that it’s stupid and bad. But not admitting that it’s a real influence that has the potential to, you know, help the fucking fascists win is absolutely, categorically idiotic.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 months ago

"We have to let Israel do genocide or they'll install fascism in the US."

Uh.

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[-] Belgdore@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

I feel like AIPAC is just a way for US politicians to get a higher salary. The feds give Israel money and an Israeli government associated agency gives politicians money directly.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 14 points 3 months ago

I wish she'd try triangulating instead. Maybe champion the idea of enforcing globally agreed upon rules and connect that to taking on the "Trumps of other nations"

[-] fermionsnotbosons@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Dumb. Acting like the good cop to Trump's bad cop routine is turning tons of people off. "You'd better cooperate with me now or I'll have to bring my associate in here, and he won't be so nice!"

Supposedly Harris told a representative of the uncommitted voting bloc from the Dem primaries that she was down to meet to discuss an arms embargo on Israel, but I wouldn't hold my breath. She needs to be more forthright about her stance, because the subtextual indications of being flexible on this and her hypothetical empathy for Palestinians I keep hearing about (but not really seeing in any meaningful way) are not cutting it anymore.

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