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[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago

I think I saw someone do an intensive breakdown of this scene where they estimated the density of the logs, calculated their velocity by counting the number of frames it took them to collide with the walker, then calculated the crush resistance of the walker's frame by measuring how much it deformed in response to the amount of energy the logs put into it.

IIRC, the AT-ST walker has a frame approximately as durable as a family minivan. So... not like terrible... assuming you weren't taking your walker anywhere more dangerous than soccer practice, but not very impressive for military hardware.

[-] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

The prevalent weapon in the SW universe are energy weapons. It could be that the AT-ST was armoured against energy weapons and not kinetic weapons. They are also scout vehicles analogous to WWII wheeled scout cars which were lightly armoured.

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 6 points 11 months ago

While not common, kinetic weapons do still exist, and are widely used by outlaws and pirates because of how cheap and easy they are to keep running.

Since I'd wager most of what the empire does by 5BBY is clearing outlaw gathering places, putting down civilian riots, and not fighting against fully equipped rebels (at least not on a scale large enough to matter in terms of designing entirely new units) they would come up against kinetics fairly often. Often enough that they would either need a separate vehicle for patrolling such areas, or the general purpose unit needs more structural integrity.

The empire does like making "good enough" units that can be deployed everywhere, so they really should make the ATST stronger.

They constantly underestimate their opponents, though.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

If you want to get realistic then we first have to ask why anyone would actually design an AT-ST when they can just take pictures from orbit. Why was there ground combat at all when the ships can drop kinetic weapons from orbit that have the impact of a nuke with none of the radioactivity?

Let's just enjoy the fantasy.

[-] Mithre@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Because sometimes you want to keep what's on the ground without leveling it?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

But then how will everyone know how evil I am?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 16 points 1 year ago

Lucas decided the trees on Endor are part metal and are therefore hyperdense or some such nonsense

This solves all problems with the scene

Stop asking questions or the Ewoks will shit in your shoe.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

That would mean when the Ewoks are cooking food metal fillings were ending up in smoke and hence food? Would explain why they are all so short, maybe they are basically kids since all of them die at a young age from metal toxicity.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

No, it means that they're like those undersea vent snails that ingest heavy metals. Ewoks are short, but they're freaky strong because of ultra dense bones and muscles!

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago

Realisticly this would probably be enoughvto make a two legged mech like that fall tho

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Not if it scutters to the side quickly. Like spot the Boston dynamics robot in testing videos when it gets shoved sideways.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

The force from each side cancels each other out, preserving perfect balance ๐Ÿ™

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

The rule of 2 brings balance to the force (and this ATST)

[-] hypna@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Teddy bears smashing imperial armor with log traps was when Star wars jumped the shark IMHO.

[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago
[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Certainly not its finest moment.

[-] Risus_Nex@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

As a child I loved the scenes with the teddybears. Even tho it's not realistic, it got a beautiful atmosphere.

And at the end Luke is kissing his sister, so that was weird.

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I actually like the Ewok scenes outside of the end battle. The end battle though? Just makes the Imperial forces look like we never should have taken them as a serious threat.

[-] WhitePaintIsEvil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I feel like they were constrained by the numbers they could show and the relatively happy vibe of star wars. I got the impression that the empire was supposed to be getting swarmed by ewoks. Which would have looked better. Although you can't really get away from them being teddy bears i suppose.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I've heard it was supposed to a (very) loose analog of the Vietnam war.

[-] Davel23@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Leia kisses Luke in ANH and ESB, no kissing in RotJ.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Can someone use magically AI bullshit to make Han Solo murder Jar Jar?

[-] Cypher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lets be real. Jar Jar should have died in the Gungan city when he returned after being banished.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 6 points 1 year ago

For the empire

[-] shukufuku@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

That's why I always field meltalogs

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 year ago

The last two frames and especially the final frame do not say very much.

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