The only way to get Europeans to stop smoking outdoors is to get rid of all the Europeans
Fair and balanced.
Why don't we start by banning outdoor use of fossil fuels? :)
Because we can work on multiple things at one time and not whatabout everything
Forgot to add /s on my post. Sorry!
I was only aiming for the lulz because cities outdoor particulate matter or PM 2.5 is terrible, and mostly generated by cars. But their sales/ companies lobby are stronger than those of nowadays tobacco brands...
I'm not sure how I feel about this, and I'm a non-smoker who hates cigarette (well, any kind of) smoke, and despite getting permanently nose-hit by CoVid, I can still smell cigarette smoke from miles away.
As much as it sounds lovely at first, this is restricting smokers way too much. If, as a European you find it ridiculous that you have to hide your alcohol bottle/flask/can with a paper bag in public in parts of the US, then this is even more restrictive. Apart from the dismissive answers to the question "Where should I smoke now", the only typical answer is "at home". Now, if these smokers live together with non-smokers then this is either forcing them to smoke under their nose or find the nearest place where it is allowed (good luck).
On the other hand, fuck yes. It is forbidden in bus/metro stops where I live, but not in the narrow, enclosed passageway leading out of the stop. Therefore, smokers get out of the train, start smoking as soon as they leave the stop (to be honest: right in the stop), and the two slow walkers right in front of me prevent me from overtaking, and the same is true behind me - so I have to inhale that shit while we walk along that long passageway. And not like it was much different on a busy pavement, in outside seating, etc.
If they actually disposed correctly of their cancer-sticks I would prefer to be a ban only on urban areas. But seeing how the entire floor is littered by the paper dildos, I think smokers haven't shown they can responsibly smoke in non-urban areas. Fuck them.
fuck yes.
Cigarettes, sure, but including ecigs sounds unreasonable? I quit smoking couple of years ago and regular cigarette smell makes me gag but Iqos and liquid vapes are not that offensive outdoors.
yes they are. i just want to breathe air.
Honestly I hate clouds of strawberry hitting me even more than regular cigarette smoke
Seems like it's more about discouraging any tobacco use, rather than how unpleasant it is to others.
To be fair, ecigs don't use tobacco. They may have nicotine added to the liquid, but no tobacco.
They still affect air quality for others
There are obvious health benefits from making smoking as annoying as possible for smokers which will lead to long term medical cost decrease. Secondary smoke from ecigs outdoors is still neglible compared to cars, farts and people in general.
I'd prefer not to get second hand popcorn lung because people feel special exhaling way too much unregulated chemicals.
Ecigs are just as, if not more disgusting than regular cigarettes. Vape clouds tend to linger in the air a lot longer. And then there's the fact that single-use vapes exist and it's a fucking disgrace.
I'm a former smoker, I miss them like I miss my first true love. Every now and then I still go for my pack and its been 5 years. I STILL chew nicotine gum but stop being pussies and fucking ban cigarettes. Stop trying to nudge smoking into this shitty little niche, Stealing peoples liberties inch by fucking inch is a bitch move.
Either be willing to fight the fight with the addicts and big tobacco or not.
So, where exactly are smokers supposed to smoke then when pretty much everywhere indoor smoking is already banned??
At home, in private lodgings and dedicated smoking areas.
This is one thing once more which would be a non issue if it weren't for the people who throw their stubs everywhere and blow smoke in the faces of others.
The article says the focus is on kid-friendly outdoor areas like parks and near schools, which makes total sense as a place to start. Doesn't seem like it's everywhere outside being banned. And generally encouraging people to not take up smoking in the first place is wonderful. For people who smoke, quitting is the biggest thing they can do to improve their health.
The article uses the phrase “key outdoor areas” so I would assume this means you can’t smoke in a crowded plaza but you can still do so on your own balcony or whatever.
they should get a person sized air tight box, get inside, smoke as much as they'd like. but they shouldn't be allowed to open the box again because i don't want that shit going outside.
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