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It’s very impressive that they got such a modern process up and running in such a relatively short period of time. I understand the Arizona location is relatively new.
Yeah, they're essentially doing trials where Arizona fab provides small amounts of sillicon that's being validated against what Taiwan fab does. While it was planned for 2024 I'm guessing everyone thought it would be delayed. It's quite a big win for US, they're on track to secure domestic supply of fairly modern chips in case shit hits the fan in Taiwan.
And they managed to do that with those lazy US workers? Wow.
E: folks, pls look up TSMC bosses' statements on American workers' ethic
Also, if interested, check out this documentary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Factory. Has a lot of interesting crosstalk between Chinese/American views on work and business.
Such a sad documentary, especially the self sabotage union votes.
I know. I was devastated when I first watched it, because I was so sure it was going to pass...
Thanks, Biden! And the American taxpayer!
Maybe, but Intel operates there so the labour pool is probably quite skilled already. Perhaps good supply chains too.
more domestic production is great
This is HORRIBLE! I'm a Patriotic Republican and don't know why it's Horrible Yet but Biden did it so it's BAD!!
He did it to support the rich libtards! Not the poor working Republicans can no longer afford guns to stop the immigrants. And he hates Tiaywan !
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We shouldn't be making water and energy intensive manufacturing in a hot desert.
Anybody know if this has anything to do with Biden's Chips and Sciences program?
Yes. So far, the CHIPS Act has resulted in $6.6b in direct funding and an additional $5b in available loans for the AZ facility.
Cool. Thanks for the intel.
You mean the TSMC.
I don't know what TSMC is. Figured it was a company.
Not sure if you're serious, but they were making a joke because Intel, who makes chips, is a competitor to TMSC the chip manufacturer from the article.
So they played on that relationship by treating the word Intel in your "thanks for the Intel" comment as meaning the company.
No I meant intel, not Intel. Like 411. It was just coincidental.
Bit by bit, Taiwan will be slowly sold off to China once they no longer hold the last thing that made them worthy of Western protection. Of course, there will be some harsh words of condemnation, but that's it. That's my theory. Sad but true.
That's the reason I'm rooting for everyone, including China, to do well with domestic chipmaking. Makes everyone have little less reason to try this modern day mutually assured destruction.
China: "this guys right, we are almost close to be our own chip manufacture and owning Taiwan."
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N00b question. Do these chips get transferred from USA to India/Vietnam for assembly and then back again to all over the world for shipping?
They may. But logistically I can’t see it being a problem. Each CPU is like 10mmx10mmx1mm. You could fit a TON in a 1m^3 box.
Ideally 100,000 if my math is correct. Just be careful as there is no packing material except for the box itself.
Hmm. Perhaps we'd come to a point where these facilities are on all continents to reduce ecological impact, but I guess Apple isn't that green.
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