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[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 9 points 9 hours ago

Hmmm, so what you are saying is that I am just one ad blocker failing away from being productive in life?

[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

People do nothing but incessantly complain about thing- yet still use thing. News flash folks; You’re never going to win this. YouTube will always be ahead of you on this.

And also.. I’ll never understand this. I use YouTube and don’t give a shit about ads. The moment they start bothering me- I’ll stop using YouTube. It’s that easy. Don’t like it, walk away.

If you hate something so much, yet can’t stop using it- you have an addiction. Ads are not the problem here.

[-] Gingernate@programming.dev 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I stay a few steps ahead of them. I haven't seen a YouTube ad in months.

Firefox with ublock origin on desktop / laptop

Grayjay mobile app

Smarttube on Android TV (also Flauncher customer launcher so I don't have to see any ads on my TV home screen)

[-] TJDetweiler@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 hours ago

I feel like there is an argument to be made about ads being put into damn near everything. They've become way too prominent in every aspect of daily life. There are so many things you cannot do without having an ad rammed down your throat. Youtube isn't the best example of this, but if you start giving up things that have ads, you will eventually have nothing. The root problem is corporate greed. Line must go up at an ever increasing angle, and shareholders must make maximum profit. How do they accomplish that? Ads. Regulatory bodies must step in before everything we see in a digital spaces (and a lot of real spaces too) becomes covered in advertisements.

Won't be long before we go to the beach to watch the sunset, and there's a floating billboard for mountain Dew covering it up. It's out of control.

[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 hours ago

So again, no one is going to win this. The only recourse is to stop using YouTube.

That’s it.

That’s how you win. You don’t play. But constantly whining about their practices while continuing to support their platform with visits is not doing the damage you think it’s doing.

They will always be steps ahead of you.

[-] TJDetweiler@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 5 hours ago

You didn't really reply to my comment. You kinda just said the same thing again, but anyway.

I guess we'll just agree to disagree. You can use YouTube without viewing ads. There are ways around it.

My point was, for the average consumer, there are way too many ads being put into everything, and unless you're savvy enough to navigate around this, the only way this will change is with regulatory intervention, which can actually happen.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

They've started serving ads when you skip backwards. Drives me fucking nuts.

I was willing to use the mobile app with ads because the interface is slightly less buggy.

Ad blocking on mobile web it is for me now 👍

[-] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Tubular :)

Had to jump into the 'name your alternative' thread hehe.

Tubular because it includes SponsorBlock.

[-] P4ulin_Kbana@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 6 hours ago

Tubular feels better, in my opinion.

[-] majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com 6 points 16 hours ago

Revanced ftw

[-] serenissi@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[-] sentientity@lemm.ee 53 points 1 day ago

It's excellent that alternatives and ad blockers do exist but we need regulatory action to hold companies accountable for things that are designed to worsen user experience to pressure people into paying. It's also a serious accessibility issue, to increasingly have everything be bright and loud and motion filled and unpausable all the time. This trend goes beyond YouTube and it sucks, we need to regulate this nonsense.

[-] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago

governments will not do anything that upsets the big companies like Google. Adblockers are are only defence against Google and others.

[-] sentientity@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Actually, good news, they have! Google just lost its search monopoly trial with the US government, and they seem to be about to lose their advertising monopoly trial too. The US FTC also just released a report (not a legal action) concluding that all the big companies have abused data collection and recommended that the government do something to make those practices unprofitable for companies. I know the EU has also been doing some significant stuff, both against apple specifically and big gatekeeper companies generally. You can certainly argue it's not enough, and I would agree with you - but it's given me some optimism that more action and real enforcement might be in the near future in many countries.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

It's pretty stupid to introduce ads on the pause screen. Usually I would pause something because I am either:

A) Being interrupted and need to focus on something else like a phone call or a family member talking to me, and wouldn't be paying attention to the screen anyways.

B) Need to leave to go somewhere else like the fridge for a snack and wouldn't be paying attention to the screen anyways.

Or

C) Just want to take a break and want to do something else which involves opening another window or program and wouldn't be paying attention to the window with YouTube open.

In every scenario where I pause YouTube and add playing would not provide any value to the entity paying YouTube to play the ad.

And in every scenario, if an ad began playing when I pause youtube it would cause me to mute my sound and/or turn off my monitor and just cause me to get super annoyed at YouTube or at whatever product is being advertised and how to never buy it ever.

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[-] x4740N@lemm.ee 72 points 1 day ago

And good people argue how adblock and sponssrblock are fair game for your shitty company practices

[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 day ago
[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

I'd rather see them on pause screen than interrupting the playback but because we can't have any nice things, interruptions will also only get worse.

[-] Grenfur@lemmy.one 23 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I guarantee you google isn't interested in showing you one or the other. They want the revenue from both. My only question is, if you pause an ad, can you get another ad in your ad?

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[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 day ago
[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 10 points 1 day ago

or invidious, grayjay, ytdl, etc...

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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 353 points 2 days ago

Anyone else remember when new technology used to be fun and exciting instead of miserable?

[-] lemmeout@lemm.ee 112 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Long gone are the days when I used be excited to read update notes for new features... Now I just hope they don't god damn force an update on me.

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[-] RadicallyBland@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago
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[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago

This already happened. People looking up CPR instructions because a loved one is dying, only to be met with three unskippable ads.

Goodbye Meemaw.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that may be so, but priorities man. Priorities! Think of our profits man! In this harsh economy, ever ad counts! We're only controlling 90% of the internet while we strive for 100%. That's 10% short. 10%! We only had a revenue of 305 billion in 2023 which is not nearly enough to cut down on ads. Billionaire lives matter man! Come on, everybody, say it all together: Make millionaires billionaires again! Billionaires first! Meemaws don't consume enough anyway. Screw her. By the way, want some penis enlargement pills?

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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago
[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

For that they're waiting on the paperwork to go through with Apple.

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago

"We need to make double the money"

  • Google
[-] interurbain1er@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

You're joking but infinite growth is the broken basis of our financial system. Shareholder are legally entitled to request growth.

YouTube has cornered the earth market, they have practically no room to grow, the only thing they have left is to increase the revenue per view, so ad stuffing will get worse quarter after quarter. Eventually they'll have to put ads in the ads and play them 5 at a time.

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[-] NotationalSymmetry@ani.social 104 points 2 days ago

What if you paused so you could see something? You're not allowed to read that text in the background because ads

[-] Jeffool@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Great point. I already find this to be a problem with the recommendations that pop up when paused, and the end-video elements they throw over everything despite having that turned off everywhere I can find it. It's all so dumb. Just so damn dumb.

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[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

Just gonna say I hate this when other apps do this. I pause cause I need to concentrate on something else. Showing an ad just makes that even harder. Now I have to pause AND close the app.

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[-] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 201 points 2 days ago

Soon: when you pause a video, it starts playing a video ad with audio, to make sure no silence time gets wasted from your speakers.

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[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 48 points 1 day ago

Don't most YouTubers make more money with their own sponsorships than from YT ads? Can we start the mass migration to PeerTube already?

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 140 points 2 days ago

God I hope my adbock holds up......

[-] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 117 points 2 days ago

If it doesn't goodbye Youtube. I love the creators, but hate you as a platform.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 113 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Like way to kill your platform for anything educational where you want to pause to look at a graph.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wonder what made their leadership continue to escalate into increasingly bullshit decisions. What happens if I need to pause because I need my PC to be quiet so I can address something and still an ad suddenly starts playing, completely interrupting what I wanted to address in a completely intrusive way? I'll tell you what happens, I'll either find some way to disable that from happening, switch to a service that doesn't do it if I can, or just begin avoiding it all together.

Brilliant planing, YouTube. Whoever has been left as its leadership is a dumbass.

[-] Rider@eviltoast.org 27 points 1 day ago

Not to mention it'll push more people towards using Adblockers. And since chrome is cracking down on Adblockers as well, people start using another browser altogether. It seems like Google is self-sabotaging with these kind of decisions.

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[-] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago

not if you use ublock origin or newpipe

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