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while normally I'd be upset if they were running somebody with some kind of real intent to push real issues, its clear Stein is mostly isnt interested in pushing anything but conspiracy theories and russian appeasement.
But if we don't vote 3rd party then democrats will never do the exact things I want, or some shit
Oh dear, that’s going to make her path to an electoral college victory harder, isn’t it.
She has 49 other states she can fail to win in...
but still siphon enough votes to hand trump the whitehouse
270 to win!
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lol good.
Same time next Presidential election, Jill?
I mean she could use the time between to build local support for the Green Party in lots of places. I guess that isn't what she's after.
Sure usually hangs out in Russia between elections, right?
And God forbid they spend any money on local elections where they can affect things like I don't know actual green party issues.
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More's the pity, she can't run for president of Russia either.
Why can’t these candidates file proper forms? What the hell is so difficult about that?
There are a miniscule number of presidential candidates running in a given year, so I assume that the UX on the process isn't very optimized.
but she's done this like 3 times already.
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Again.... I might just go back too being a Dem. I tried 3rd party but, this stuff keeps happing. I like the ideals just no was too do it from a third party way for the time being. Gotta change from with in I guess.
Not from within, from underneath. You effect change at the lower levels. Political change comes from the ground up. That's why Jill Stein is so frustrating cuz she takes all the money and attention that could be spent somewhere useful and instead spends it on a boondoggle for her own personal gain.
This. The Brits have a first past the post system. Greens now are winning mayorships and parliament seats and making deals with labor not to split the vote in their favor because they have been building local support for decades.
They are a force in their districts, so they get elected to office in their districts. Do that to a few dozen districts and you can meaningfully affect the balance of power in Westminster. Then you start getting into coalitions and supplying ministers.
You can’t just wake up once every four years and hope to be anything but a spoiler candidate.
100%
Greens local, Dems for state and nation. You are just throwing away your vote otherwise.
Not even Greens, they don't put any serious effort into local elections either. Any other (serious) third party would be better locally.
The two party system is incredibly frustrating. There is also a feeling of helplessness because the path to change is unclear. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans truly want more competition
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Putin is gonna be so pissed at her
The petition forms were faulty. Be nice if we were told what was wrong with them
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