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[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 201 points 1 month ago

Heheh, this shitpost triggers me.

My mom was forcing us a macrobiotic diet back in the day. We were strictly vegan, although fish is allowed in that diet, some vegetables like patatoes and tomatoes are not. Hardcore vegans…

My school lunch was mostly sushi with a filling of fermented prune called umeboshi, or tempeh and seaweeds, pumpkin or rice balls and sesame seeds. We were underfed, yellow flaky skin because of the overdose of carotene and you see everyone around you in school eating candy, fries, meat and what not while also taking the piss at you for being different and stinking of that diet.

At dinner I use to bury my Iziki seaweed in the plant pot because I just couldn't swallow that shit without gagging. If I did not behave mom would go…”you're behaviour is to yang, next two weeks on a yin diet”. Disgusting.

By the age of 12, me and my sister got into stealing money from our parents real quick to buy normal or fast food, annoying the guy at the snackbar on wheels for free fries, shoplifting and shit. Yeah, good times.

[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 98 points 1 month ago

Oh, and this is not a rant against vegans, everyone is welcome at my house, if you are good anybody. I even have pots and pans that never touched meat. I will serve you any grilled vegetables, beans, salads and vinaigrettes, pesto's and bread, or baked patatoes and what not. I used to cook vegan for the homeless here in Amsterdam when I was mostly homeless and squatting myself in what we call squatting cafe’s.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

You are living up to, and by my estimation exceeding, your username. Sorry to hear you had a rough childhood. Glad to hear that things are better - you sound like an awesome host.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

That's a batshit insane diet, not a vegan one. Fish allowed but potatoes and tomatoes forbidden? What is the logic here? Or is this just some weird "diet" that's supposed to make you more "pure" or something?

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[-] Shapillon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Having separate cookware is really considerate n_n

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[-] Lord743@lemmy.world 83 points 1 month ago

that's why i hate religious restrictions

[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 79 points 1 month ago

Yes I agree.

Not only the diet, but the whole cult around it. Faith healers, homeopathy, people chewing on brown riceballs for an hour counting how many chews they had so they can show off how far they are on their macrobiotic spiritual journey. “You gotta chew your seaweed at least a 100 times”. These mf’s should not be around kids or have any (yes I would not exist). I am not on speaking terms and won't open the door for my parents, get fucked.

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[-] Another_earthling@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Don't confuse that with veganism though

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[-] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 39 points 1 month ago

Why the forbidden potatoes and tomatoes?

[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 50 points 1 month ago

Everything in the genetic family of nightshade. Solanaceae.

“Fruits including tomatoes, tomatillos, eggplant/aubergine, bell peppers and chili peppers, all of which are closely related members of the Solanaceae.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae

All the delicious plant based stuff snuffed out in a macrobiotic diet.

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 month ago

The nightshade family is in like half of what humans even eat that's ridiculous

[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 17 points 1 month ago

Well it is a spiritual journey, you don’t need to sin on food.

[-] Kallioapina@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

What was the so called spiritual part of abstaining from these, or in in general, on this whole thing? No need to answer if you dont feel like it or whatever, just thank you for your insights.

[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 14 points 1 month ago

From what I learned a higher spiritual state is only achieved through discipline and rigoureus diet, ultimately one could live on a bowl of brown rice a day rule the earth. It is all really 1970s zen.

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[-] _____@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago

I have no words, I'm sure you've heard it all. Thanks for sharing this story and sorry for your childhood. Hope you're healing.

[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 14 points 1 month ago

Thank you for caring, that is better than anything spoken.

[-] TheLorax@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago

I'm curious why fish was allowed and why tomatoes weren't, do you know what their reasoning was?

[-] kindenough@kbin.earth 13 points 1 month ago

Beats me, maybe a land animal was more scentient than anything out of the sea. There are vegetarians having no problem eating fish.

[-] wedeworps@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago

That would per definition be pescetarians

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[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

That's a diet that's avoiding nightshades not a vegan diet. Some people think nightshades can trigger inflammation or autoimmune diseases but there really isn't any evidence about it. Some people with irritable bowel disease fine nightshades trigger flare ups but that's about all I've heard of.

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[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 74 points 1 month ago
[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hmm, does it count if the animal (human, in this case) could be omnivorous, but chooses not to be for whatever reason?

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago

Herbivores can be carnivorous. I've seen plenty of videos of horses and cows cromching on baby chickens.

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[-] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When I left my old workplace my colleagues organized a good-bye meal together. Standard office job, with regular guys. We had a great relationship and they knew I was vegetarian for 5+ years at that point and never had any issue with it.

So they asked which restaurant I would like to go and I was stupid enough to let them choose.

We ended up in a specialized Brazilian meat restaurant, where the servers go around with absurdly large pieces of grilled/fryed meats and would carve a piece to the guests. If you are a meat lover you can have easily 10-15 types of meats in a couple of hours.

Those assholes had a huge grin on their faces all evening, as I could only eat the sides from the buffet and had to refuse all meals from the servers about 12 time that evening. It was a truly memorable night, we even got drunk and laughed our asses off on our way home.

So yeah, not just kids can be assholes. We are still in contact till this day.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

That's pretty fucked up. I love Texas de Brazil but I wouldn't bring a vegetarian friend there to watch me hurt myself on all you can eat meat.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

While celebrating them, no less

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[-] Wolf314159@startrek.website 11 points 1 month ago

I mean, that's fucked up and hilarious. I'm a dirty omnivore and those places are no more appetizing to me. Those cuts at the all you can eat Brazilian places SUCK.

But surprisingly, when I want a predictable vegetable side while I'm traveling, I go to a steakhouse. Every other place seems to serve either microwaved bag veggies, fried bullshit, or something sad smothered in sauce. Go to a steakhouse and I can get a rare well seasoned aged filet and two steamed fresh vegetable sides plus a salad. The only reliable vegan places I've found are Indian, which isn't bad, but is often not really to my taste. Obviously I'm no vegan, but I think it's fair to say I love plant based foods even more as long as they're not fake meat, fake cheese, or overly spiced mush. In a meat centric region that's a hard palette to satisfy sometimes.

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago

I hated school before, but getting trash thrown at me and I was the one called to the office to stop what I was doing.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

I went to a private elementary school where I had the same teacher for 1st through 6th grade. Not only did the kids bully me, so did he. And he encouraged the other kids to do it, even my friends. I'm relatively certain, looking back on it, that it was in part because I'm Jewish.

He also once did something that would 100% have put him on a sex offender list today. Once I started crying because of how they were treating me and he put me on his lap and kissed me on the cheek and started calling me a little baby. But it was the 80s, so apparently that was okay.

I discovered he had an email address a while back and I sent him an email telling him that he fucked up my childhood and that he, as a professed Christian, now knows that he will go to his grave unforgiven because there is no possible way he could do enough to earn my forgiveness.

He replied, I deleted it without reading it. Fuck him.

The bigoted piece of shit also was in the Peace Corps in the Cameroon and because of that, thought it was totally appropriate to dress in the traditional clothing of Cameroonian people every Halloween. Unsurprisingly, the two Jewish kids and the two black kids in school were treated the worst by him. One of the two black kids was a girl who very definitely had dyslexia. Wow did he humiliate her over it constantly.

The funny thing is that he basically terrified me into not explaining what he was doing to my parents explicitly enough. They saw weird signs, but also always told me that I'd be treated worse in public school, which was proven untrue when I went to middle school, because as shitty as middle school kids are to each other, at least the teachers generally didn't take the side of the bullies and encourage them to bully harder. They only knew when my mom ran into one of the people I went to school with in a supermarket who told my mom that she felt so bad for me when we were in that hellhole.

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[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 21 points 1 month ago

And then they wonder about school shootings... oh well...

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[-] archiduc@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago

A 12 year old drew a recognizable picture of another 12 year old? Doubt it.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 94 points 1 month ago

You just pick something obvious and over elaborate on it. Big glasses, bright blue hat, etc also kids are mean, so pick a flaw, same idea.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago

Or write their name on it.

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[-] Blackout@fedia.io 33 points 1 month ago

I wish I was compared to a cow. People usually tell me I resemble a jackass.

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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 month ago

Not like this would be any better in private schools tho...

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago

Well they're not wrong...

[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 month ago

would this text land differently if "public school" were replaced with "school"? 🤔

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