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[-] bender223@lemmy.today 10 points 9 hours ago

Someone call Alanis Morisette 🤣

[-] Fester@lemm.ee 125 points 1 day ago

It sued itself in its confusion!

[-] Samsy@lemmy.ml 28 points 23 hours ago

This isn't very effective.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 day ago

LMAO. Fuck Nintendo and the "do as I say not as I do" BS.

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 24 points 22 hours ago

Emulation is perfectly legal if you own the game.

[-] priapus@sh.itjust.works 24 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

And yet Nintendo files bogus copyright claims against emulators.

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[-] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 20 points 1 day ago

~~do as I say not as I do~~

Nintendo: Money! Fuck everything else.

All other attributes derive from that.

[-] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago

This really isn't that surprising. They used ROMs for the classic games in Animal Crossing. They even had evidence it was from a release group, and not Nintendo's own copies

I really don't understand why this is embarrassing. I don't know the exact setup they have going on. Is it like a kiosk where people can play classic games, or is it a monitor just displaying them? They have their own emulator, Canoe, that they used for the SNES Classic. I don't remember the name of the NES one

Weren't at least some of the games in the Super Mario Collection ROMs? I guess I can see why people would expect a direct port from the company that created it, or original hardware running the original games, but it isn't like Nintendo doesn't already have a track record for this sort of thing

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 day ago

It's embarrassing because of how extremely litigious Nintendo is, and that they are themselves profiting using other people's work (emulators and/or ROMs acquired from the internet), the exact thing they ruin lives over.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

I would have thought its embarrasing that they couldnt provide real hardware for an official museum

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[-] BonerMan@ani.social 11 points 22 hours ago

This means you can find the pc and get THEIR OWN EMULATOR, make it open source and fuck them royally.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 13 points 20 hours ago

You think they wrote their own emulator instead of just taking one of the free ones on the internet (who they will likely sue later). That's cute.

[-] Alice@beehaw.org 2 points 4 hours ago

Is it a known thing that they discontinued canoe or something?

[-] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 18 points 19 hours ago

Well yes, yes they did. It is called Canoe and is for example running inside the SNES Classic Mini. And that is not the only emulator they wrote. Writing an emulator is not some obscure magic, and it is way easier if you own all the schematics and other Information used to build the original hardware.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 9 points 20 hours ago

That's not how any of that works

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[-] brax@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago

Implying they have their own emulator and it's not just running retroarch or something

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 1 points 43 minutes ago

Nintendo has their own emulators for running these games on newer consoles.

[-] BonerMan@ani.social 5 points 21 hours ago

If they would do that it would be very useful in court.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 3 points 20 hours ago

It's not illegal for Nintendo to run retroarch.

[-] BonerMan@ani.social 7 points 19 hours ago

Its not illegal for anyone else either, but them running such software for profit might be a licensing issue depending on the exact version they use.

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 8 points 22 hours ago

It would be interesting to plug an usb rubber duckie to own that station and dump all the disk somewhere

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 10 points 1 day ago

What's so embarrassing? Emulation for backward compatibility is done all the times

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 18 points 1 day ago

I guess people are assuming it runs whatever third party emulator. It was at least how I first imagined it.

If that's the case, it's in my opinion very embarrassing: attempting to profit from stuff made by the community they act extremely hostile towards.

If not, I guess it's just mildly embarrassing that they have a poorly concealed windows machine taking away from the immersion.

[-] greenacres3233@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 23 hours ago

I read through the article, only speculation but since the sound is without a doubt the USB being disconnected then it's pretty obvious an Windows machine running a rom.

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Well yeah, but it might as well be their own in-house emulator.

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[-] BigBootyBoy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Because Nintendo really really hates people who emulate their games

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[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 45 points 1 day ago

Their NES and SNES mini consoles were also just off the shelf ARM SBCs running emulators. If I recall correctly people even found signatures of release groups in some of the ROMs.

[-] SitD@lemy.lol 14 points 1 day ago

technicians just know what's good. unfortunately every company becomes too big for its own good and inspirationless ghouls take over 😔 the palworld thing also just shows they could be so successful if they take off the shackles and make a good game, but now they want to shackle everyone else so no one can have good games

[-] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

They are at least Nintendo's own in-house emulators. I don't recall the situation with the Classic systems ROMs, but Animal Crossing had the release group signatures if I'm not mistaken. They've been pulling this garbage for a long time

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 4 points 9 hours ago

The nes roms in animal crossing for N64 had the header for the ines emulator. Now, a few years before Nintendo hired a guy who worked on the audio driver for ines, and that tomohiro is credited with lots of emu projects for Nintendo, so it's not impossible that they reused that header idea. In the gigaleak there's a tool that adds the ines header to clean roms.

This said, it's also not impossible that they're taking a peek in other OSS emulators source code, i recall that luigiblood (a guy obsessed in decompiling Nintendo emulators) found traces of 64dd emulator code from pj64 in some Nintendo product, which then was silently removed after he tweeted about that

[-] Biskii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

This is very educational, thank you. Just out of curiosity, what has Nintendo done with the 64dd? I thought they had forgotten about it

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Also the Virtual Console releases, and things like the demo games in Smash Bros. brawl,

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