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They think happiness and living well is a zero sum game, meaning that for one person to be happy another has to be miserable.

[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 hours ago

if they see that someone's getting something they're not getting: "that's not faaaaaaiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrr"

if they get something other people aren't getting: "i earned it!!!"

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago

They’re also incredibly terrified at all times and so if they see someone being happier than before their monkey brain says “it’s probably you who’s about to get got!” and they lose their minds.

[-] Redacted@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

To be fair that's kind of true under capitalism.

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 7 points 1 hour ago

Not really, and especially on a macroeconomic level it's the opposite of the truth.

The happiness described here is not monetary. It's stuff like gay people existing. Your economic status and your queerness shouldn't correlate. So queer people being happy with their lives doesn't take away anything from anyone else.

And on a macroeconomic level, more equal societies produce more growth and thus more wealth for everyone.

[-] Redacted@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

My bad, didn't appreciate it was referring to happiness in terms of social freedoms.

I meant for someone to have a good life without monetary worries on one side of the world it almost necessitates worse conditions elsewhere.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Explain to me how two women kissing causes an unrelated person’s purchasing power to be reduced.

[-] BallsandBayonets 1 points 1 hour ago

That's a social issue and lies on a separate axis from economic issues. Unfortunately in the US the capitalists refuse to give the voters an economic left option, so we have to settle for a capitalist party that panders to bigots, and a capitalist party that pretends to not be bigoted.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I wanna know what the original said

[-] CallMeButtLove@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Not sure if it was the original but I've seen one where instead of conservatives it said "beavers" and instead of "people trying to be happy" it said "flowing water".

[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

I've seen that one as well.

[-] banner80@fedia.io 22 points 4 hours ago

Here is the main problem summed up:

Political strategists on the right wing figured out that it's easier to gain power by making people angry and hateful than it is by doing great policy and giving people hope. Angry and hateful people mobilize easier and can be hardened to vote AGAINST an enemy instead of having to earn their vote by merit.

Armed with this strategy, media networks like Fox "News" have spent nearly 3 decades making millions of Americans angry, hateful and disinformed about proper governance and progressive efforts. By painting progress itself as danger, and every sensible politician as a monster, they are able to mobilize voters for the GOP and against everyone else, even when the GOP offers nothing in return by the way of good governance.

At this point, the average US disinformation-hardened conservative does think "absolutely not" about any mainstream modern idea for governing correctly and doing the right thing by citizens. Because they've been conditioned to think that any type of good governance that prioritizes society is some type of evil, crafted by monsters that must be defeated. And they currently believe that such evil must be defeated by giving dictator powers to a criminal, rapist, treasonous, idiot, demented conman.

We have many problems in this country, but the main one is malicious disinformation by right wing propaganda that has infected the culture and ruined the brains of tens of millions of Americans. And we are doing nothing to stop those disinformation propaganda networks, or even slow them down, under the misguided notion that "free speech" gives everyone a right to lie/con/defraud everyone else.

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

Because they’ve been conditioned to think that any type of good governance that prioritizes society is some type of evil, crafted by monsters that must be defeated. And they currently believe that such evil must be defeated by giving dictator powers to a criminal, rapist, treasonous, idiot, demented conman.

I would amend this slightly. There are certainly some that subscribe to what you wrote, but I think a larger percentage of them don't go that extreme, but they do subscribe to the idea of "zero sum" for policy. So if they see any policy that benefits someone that is not themselves, the assume that that policy is taking something from themselves to make that policy happen. The net effect is that unless they see a direct tangible benefit to themselves then whatever policy in question must be defeated or discarded.

[-] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

The scariest thing about Conservatives is they are getting pressed against reality and the false narrative they cling to as the only possible explanation of reality.

Their lie is so ridiculous and so obviously 'coming from inside the house' that they will now protect it with everything they are.

The only hope is that they accept a conclusion of 'I was right about everything, just the small detail of who was actually responsible needed a single puzzle piece to confirm'.

[-] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago

was the original about beavers?

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

Coming to a republic near you if you waste your vote ðis year.

Make your plan and see it þrough.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

They absolutely know what they're doing.

[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Yes. Just watch Lindsay Graham talk

[-] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Do you think well if I'm not doing this I should be in charge of this... And No one should be doing it

And no one should regulate anything except me

this post was submitted on 22 Oct 2024
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