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submitted 4 weeks ago by RmDebArc_5@toot.io to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

#Firefox doesn't need any new features to be more attractive for users, it just needs to make CSS theming more accessible

Theme: https://github.com/Godiesc/firefox-one

#FirefoxCSS #browserwar #customization @firefox

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[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 84 points 4 weeks ago

Also don't add advertising crap that is opt-out and only configurable via about:config.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 75 points 4 weeks ago

Uh, no, they definitely need tab grouping before they get into making CSS theming easier.

[-] tuna@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 4 weeks ago

Looks to be in the works which makes me very happy. If you use nightly, make sure browser.tabs.groups.enabled in about:config is enabled

https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/native-tab-grouping-more-customizable-tab-bar/idc-p/72706/highlight/true#M39420

[-] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 6 points 4 weeks ago

Tab grouping is nice, but I've found Sidebery to meet my needs (specifically nested tab groups, and separating projects — plus it worked out of the box with Firefox Color) much better. I have it configured to automatically unload collapsed branches, which is nice as a tab hoarder, and it can fully send entire panels to your bookmarks for later usage (this is a massive performance improvement when you're regularly opening 100–200 tabs/day per panel). A native solution, however, would be much appreciated — as long as there's a way to nest tab groups and unload their contents.

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[-] festnt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago

yes i agree, tab grouping is very good

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[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 60 points 4 weeks ago

And stop doing shady shit

[-] Vincent@feddit.nl 46 points 4 weeks ago

Anyone who thinks they know what needs to happen for Firefox to regain market share, needs to consider what would happen if someone forks Firefox and makes that happen.

There's no way that CSS theming is it. And in general, "not doing something" isn't going to be it, either.

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[-] prototype_g2@lemmy.ml 29 points 4 weeks ago

Honestly, I don't see why CSS theming is important. The customization is nice and all, but that's not going to make people switch to Firefox. There are many other things that could be improved, like adding tab grouping. I use this extension called Tree Style Tab which I cannot live without. Firefox having something like that by default instead of an extension would be nice.

However, having said that, OperaGX did find quite a lot of success by simply making it easy to theme the browser, so I can see where they are coming from.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

Tree Style Tab which I cannot live without. Firefox having something like that by default instead of an extension would be nice.

Been using TST for a while now, and I whole heartedly agree. Given that it's essentially just some CSS, I can't imagine that it would be difficult at all to support natively.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

On my list of things important for the browser I use, CSS theming doesn't even appear.

[-] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago

CSS theming is absolutely dispensable

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 22 points 4 weeks ago

Only reason I use Chromium is PWAs (Web Apps). Which is why I made an extension that opens links from Chromium in Firefox.

Got Slack running in your work profile on Chromium? Opens links in Firefox work profile.

I should probably release this.

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

Same here. I have to trust/use an extension and third party desktop application (Progressive Web Apps for Firefox) to get this feature to work and not have to rely on Chrome/Edge/etc.

I can easily see less patient or understanding users dropping Firefox if they find out it doesn't work with Progressive Web Apps.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

My problem with that extension is the separate profile requirement (so new links can't open in a specific profile), and some things (like Slack) don't fully work outside Chromium.

My solution works like this:

  • Slack open as PWA in Chromium in profile Work
  • Click link to http://that
  • Extension captures the request, cancels the new tab/window, sends the URL and profile name to a small service running on localhost
  • Service opens Firefox with same profile to URL

The extension is set to skip this process if the base URL is the same as the current site (Slack.com/google.com/etc).

Note: Why would someone down vote you for a helpful response? Sheash.

[-] tay404@mstdn.social 16 points 4 weeks ago

@RmDebArc_5 @firefox I believe they really need better tab organization (without the need for extensions). just basic tab grouping like chrome is a very important feature.

[-] Midnitte@beehaw.org 2 points 4 weeks ago
[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 11 points 4 weeks ago

It should also ship with a better default CSS theme.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 weeks ago

And stop forcing websites into darkmode. Part of the reason I use resist fingerprinting is for theming.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago
[-] Quintus@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Agreed. This is the only reason (besides the built-in fake VPN) OperaGX is popular. All browsers have pretty much the same feature set. OperaGX's biggest strength is CSS customization, Firefox's biggest strength is extensions, Edge's is being the Windows default and Chrome's is it's image of "fast and secure browsing".

All Firefox needs to be is a jack of all trades. But still prioritize it's main distinction.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 weeks ago

Bad for privacy (potentially)

[-] festnt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 weeks ago

well extensions can be too, you just gotta trust or use open source stuff

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 weeks ago

Well I'm very unlikely to stray from Foss. The problem with theming is that it allows websites to pick you out in a crowd. That won't matter much if you don't clear cookies on close but for people who want to resist fingerprinting that is a deal breaker.

I would love to theme the browser but that also themes websites are far as I can tell.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

Also ditch AI.

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago

Main thing I want is to override site css. Who cares what the browser itself looks like.

[-] unrushed233 10 points 4 weeks ago
[-] xnx@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 weeks ago

Zen browser is Firefox with easy css theming

[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Not a fix but having Mozilla coded PWAs could help a bit. Rather than 3rd party.

[-] ProfessorYakkington@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

I like theming , I am already a Firefox user. I think the sad reality is that for more adoptions , in the order of numbers that chrome puts up , Firefox needs to be a default application ; the common users doesn't want to customize anything ( my hot take ).

I don't think it is important that Firefox gets to those numbers as long as they can generate enough revenue to keep going.

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