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I for one am going through quite a culture shock. I always assumed the nature of FOSS software made it immune to be confined within the policies of nations; I guess if one day the government of USA starts to think that its a security concers for china to use and contribute to core opensource software created by its citizens or based in their boundaries, they might strongarm FOSS communities and projects to make their software exclude them in someway or worse declare GPL software a threat to national security.

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I think the prestige of "maintainers" and contributions/control are what is being torn down. Anyone anywhere is still welcome to contribute, they are simply limited from direct control. They can still fork at any time, anyone can. Getting people to follow your fork is another thing entirely, and your open source code will still likely be incorporated directly or indirectly. The only thing that has changed is the misguided prestige that has grown around the project and is not a required or relevant part of the project as a whole.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I'm out of the loop, what's the recent Linux drama? If you don't wanna type it out, you can point me in the right direction. Thanks. :)

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Torvalds kicked out a bunch of Russia-based kernel maintainers.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

For additional context, this was not a choice, but a requirement. The Linux Foundation is US based, and Torvalds is a US citizen. This was required due to current US sanctions against Russia, and was not just some sort of "Russia bad" thing from Torvalds that a lot of people are framing it as.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

and was not just some sort of "Russia bad" thing from Torvalds

The way he announced it and responded to the critics very much made it seem like that. He legitimately needs to shut the fuck up and get a PR person to talk in his stead.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

this was not a choice, but a requirement

It has been framed as such, but no evidence has been given that it was a requirement

[–] Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

There was more drama? I didn't even notice. They're always doing drama.

[–] Dr_Vindaloo@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Yes. I always thought of sanctions as being finance-related, meaning you can't transact with sanctioned groups. I figured it couldn't apply to decision-making/membership in non-profit organizations (that it might somehow violate "free speech" or some shit). Finding out this is not the case is terrifying and one more reason to hate the US (not that we needed more). This might disincentivize some people to contribute to FOSS.

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Unfortunately no.

I remember the selinux controversy and the nsa trying to slip bad algorithms in.

[–] QuillanFae@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just wanted to say that I have the same questions, and it's a relief to see it posted by someone with more courage. I'm too ignorant to contribute to the discussion though. I don't know how a government or private entity could pressure a FOSS project in this way, unless that pressure was put on the project's git platform. At which point the repo just moves elsewhere.

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[–] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 3 points 8 months ago

From what I understand this wasn't a decision dictated by sanctions nor was there any strongarming. Otherwise it would've happend way earlier.

I also think splitting politics and literally anything else doesn't work and is something people who benefit from the discussion (or lack therof) made up.

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 3 points 8 months ago

Nothing is devoid of global politics.

@Artemis_Mystique@lemmy.ml Views on the idea, no. But it confirmed my opinion that the current socio-economic system is unfriendly to FLOSS

[–] sag@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago
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