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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Showroom7561@lemmy.ca to c/openstreetmap@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/6483361

I see that quite a few major roads in Ontario are getting paved shoulders, plenty wide enough for cyclists, despite not being marked as bike lanes/routes.

An example of this is HWY7/12 in Port Perry - all new shoulders.

There is a tag: cycleway=shoulder, which gives me reason to think that we should be doing this.

What say you guys?

UPDATE: Bike Ottawa has some guidance on the matter. I'll be using the cycleway=soulder tag for roads that have SMOOTH and WIDE shoulders that would work well for cyclists.

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[-] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, “theoretically rideable” vs “I would ride this” is huge. On a real road there’s a certain amount of maintenance and cleaning. Shoulders? Not so much.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On a real road there’s a certain amount of maintenance and cleaning. Shoulders? Not so much.

I'd argue that depends on where you live! LOL Bike lanes around here are usually a, "oh, we'll just dump snow here." type lane!

I rode on several of these shoulders, and it looks like they were made to be wide and smooth on purpose (i.e. for cyclists). I think our government is following the data, which says that paved shoulders save (cyclist) lives.

[-] pietervdvn@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

That depends on local tagging preferences.

(For the non-canadians, it would help to have an image linked, e.g. on Mapillary or maybe Geovisio/Panoramax.)

Also: a warm welcome to the canadian Lemmy-community!

[-] Tiuku@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

StreetComplete has a shoulder option in the cycleway overlay. I wonder what tags it actually sets?

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's an interesting thought. I may try a spot and see what it tags it as.👍

Update: when i click on a section of road in Street Complete that already has a "cycleway=shoulder" tag, it comes up as "non, but shoulder is usable for cyclists". So it looks like the cycleway=shoulder tag is correct. And that tag shows up correctly on Cycleosm, too.

[-] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Ooh, good question. Since there’s a tag, I say use it!

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