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Become ungovernable (sh.itjust.works)

ID: line drawing of an upright bunny with a black bandana tied around their neck, holding a lit match in their mouth like you might a toothpick. The text says "we can't just vote fascism away, the time has come to disobey. (be brave!)"

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[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The word you're looking for is: civil disobedience. Break laws, get attention. Our grandparents did the same thing during Vietnam.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago

No, the word you're looking for might be civil disobedience, but there is nothing civil about what I have in mind, nor should there be.

I reserve my civility for those who extend it to me, not for fucking fascists and Nazis who want to kill marginalised people for who we are.

Also, considering how long the Vietnam travesty went on for, and how little, if any, impact the protests against it had, I wouldn't be so quick to use them as a reference.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 hours ago

These are technical terms. There's legal protest, then civil disobedience---this is how we ended Jim Crow; a lot of people had to go to jail to fight the system---and then there's domestic terrorism. If you don't think civil disobedience is going far enough, then you're advocating for terrorism.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

this is how we ended Jim Crow

Yeah, and got whatever shit still remains today, including systemic white supremacy and slavery.

As for the imaginary line between "protest", "freedom fighting", and "terrorism", it is one your oppressor has defined to make sure people like you turn your backs on those actually brave enough to take on them and their system in the only meaningful way there is to oppose it. Maybe consider thinking more critically about the world and who defines its rules for you.

So while we're bringing up grandparents - I'm going to take my lead from some of my own, who were armed partisans in the Polish forests, and armed fighters in a ghetto rebellion, shooting Nazis because they knew it is the only way to defeat them. (E: and if you're only ok with people fighting back once they're in the cage, you have chosen the side of those doing the caging)

Enjoy your sit in, those of us directly in the firing line don't have time to learn our lessons from the white washed history those who want to suppress us teach.

E: oh, and while we're here, and since you brought up Jim Crow, maybe consider the words of MLK, and where you fit in on the demanding order over justice scale:

I must make two honest confessions to you, my Christian and Jewish brothers. First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action"; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a "more convenient season." Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.

[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago

MAGA is not a protected class, resist them at every facet of your life, give them no quarter

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 26 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Everyone's fantasy of armed and organized leftist resistance would've been a lot easier to do without right-wing extremists in control of the federal government.

If you are organizing publicly online, they aren't going to just sit back, they are going to come for you.

This is going to be a repeat of iran in '79. Leftists will be wiped out.

[-] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 11 points 20 hours ago

Organizing gives them a way to find you. Act alone, together.

[-] AlijahTheMediocre@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

We have at methods of decentralized encrypted communication. There are ways to organize securely.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 15 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Just a warning, and I'm hoping we never get to this point, but you're wrong. The issue isn't that the technology doesn't work. The issue is the more people in the loop the easier it is to infiltrate. If you're organizing to do crime, communicate as little of it as possible, even if it's encrypted. The encryption only protects the message from being seen by outsiders and doesn't prevent an insider from being a spy.

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 4 points 17 hours ago

We're all spies on this blessed day

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 17 points 23 hours ago

I still have hope that we will have a democracy in 4 years. We'll see how it goes. It might be time to get a firearm and start putting in some range time.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago

This is why I agree with Republicans on guns rights. They won't give up their guns so fuck it, give me one too.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 20 hours ago

I still have hope that we will have a democracy in 4 years.

This is what people, both libs and "teach the dems" non-voters don't seem to be getting: that's not how facism works. Even if it were the case, at minimum, the courts are captured for the rest of anyone currently living's life. That's done.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

Also do these other things... Read a few books on guerrilla warfare and tactics.

Learn to sew

Learn to operate a radio

Grow your own food

Generate your own power

Fascists government are going to target your comfort and communication in order to enforce compliance.

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[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

We could have voted it away. And it would have been way easier than the alternatives. But we chose not to.

But since we didn’t organize to vote it away, I’m not sure how we’re going to organize a general strike. And anything else is so difficult and so messy and has very little guarantee of improving anyone’s conditions.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We could have voted it away.

Lmfao, news flash: it's already here, has been for a while.

Never mind that never in history has tyranny ever been voted away. To think otherwise you must completely misunderstand what tyranny and fascism are, as well as how the current establishment functions.

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Vote it away. It's been a joke for so long and people cling to the idea that it works so badly. I am Canadian. We are also past voting. The systems of government must be torn down. They are corrupt and do not work for the people.

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Hear hear..

I'm in the UK and we have the same situation + monarchy, for added funsies. I keep thinking people are getting enough of a glimpse behind the curtain at the fact that the system wasn't designed to serve them, but to centralise power in the hands of very few people who exploit the rest to continuously strengthen their own power, but part of those efforts are the propaganda, and it just goes to show how well it works that despite so much ugly truth being revealed over and over, some people still see "my team vs your team" as the only way to exist. It's both sad and very scary.

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[-] Smith6826@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We could have voted it away.

Don't forget gerrymandering and other fraudulent methods of deciding victory like the electoral college being baked into this diseased system.

They only give the illusion of choice.

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[-] Euphorazine@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I'm still feeling bitter and a fast food place last night asked me to tip, so it got me thinking that maybe this is the time to push out tipping culture. If the country wants the party of "fuck you, I got mine", then fight your own battles for your wage.

Legally, if they don't make minimum wage through tips then the employer has to make up the difference (in practice this likely doesn't happen). Maybe it will make them care more about the minimum wage if it affects them.

[-] squid_slime@lemm.ee 11 points 23 hours ago

instead i would say you could tip and hand out union material now that would really fuck the rulling class off.

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[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 9 points 23 hours ago

I can see where you're coming from in theory, but if we rely on employers to treat employees fairly we'll be waiting a long time (they're already demonstrating that they would rather ignore the law and potentially face a minor fine, than pay the minimum wage), and the only ones who will suffer will be the sub-minimum wage employees who now aren't getting that tip either.

You make people care by building solidarity with them, not by using them as a bargaining chip.

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[-] BenFranklinsDick@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

How many guns does the bunny own?

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 15 points 1 day ago

They used to own tons, but sadly since the boating mishap, they're all at scattered at the bottom of a really deep lake.

Who would have thought that bringing every single one of your legally purchased firearms onto a small boat to show them the world would be a bad idea?

Oh well, no need to look for them.

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