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[-] praxis_jack@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

WhY iS eVeRyThInG pOlItIcAl NoW

[-] QueenHawlSera@lemmy.world 25 points 4 hours ago

This sadly reminds me of when an Official Star Wars Youtube channel did animations to introduce the main characters to a younger generation. There's one of Leia where they re-enact her shooting the group's way into the garbage area.

And literally there were dozens of Far Right Star Wars "Fan" channels screaming about it, claiming that no scene like that existed in the actual movie and that they were "re-writing history to make Leia look more important than she really is"

They really are just massive sexists who pretend Rey's a Mary Sue and that Leia never did anything but wear the slave outfit.

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago

I've been trying to wrap my head around this too. Just yesterday, I was thinking "what would Mr. Rogers say/think at a time like this?"

Then it dawned on me that maybe the worst parts of society had a radically different upbringing and media exposure than myself. ^1^ The so-called "violent" cartoons (many of which were just toy commercials) I get and recall people keeping that stuff from their kids. But to think of banning something like (1980's) PBS in your home, of all things. Now I understand why that messaging existed in the first place - we might be worse off right now without it.


1. Insert "we-are-not-the-same-gen-x.jpg" meme here.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

My only hope about public radio/TV, going forward, is that they're already so used to operating on a shoestring budget from the government. It will unfortunately mean more funding drives, but I will definitely be far more likely to contribute if that becomes literally their only source of income.

And maybe without money from the government, they will be more independent, as lately NPR has been sliding right as an overcorrection over idiots that think reporting objective reality is biased because it makes their side look bad.

[-] person___man@lemmy.world 28 points 8 hours ago

I like the accuracy of the eyes growing over time.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

We have entered an era where everything must be equal. Are you interviewing a highly qualified medical specialist about vaccines? Make sure you also bring in a conspiracy theorist who didn't finish high school but has an account on twitter to present a dissenting opinion. “Every opinions deserves to be heard: today we have an alpha male and a rape victim, listeners will be able to make up their own minds about who provoked who.”

[-] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 hours ago

If we were living in the 1930s they'd be the same people complaining we're being unfair to Hitler and we need to hear his perspective too.

Hell, he used the same political strategy as modern day fascist politicians: simply lying. "I'm gonna make everything better! How? Don't worry about that, just trust me and also let me reassert Germany's national pride!" I'm reminded of Trump's ACA "plan" (that he doesn't have one).

And we just let them say that, unchallenged! Maybe someone asks how they'll do it, but viewers just hear a strong man telling a story of future prosperity and ignore any small details a journalist might counter with. In the name of "balance", we let them spread their info hazards and pretend silly things like facts will let people come to the right conclusion.

[-] Bleys@lemmy.world 101 points 13 hours ago

Just wait until the adults are people who grew up with the YouTube algorithm

[-] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 11 hours ago

yt has been around for some 18 years now. there are already adults who grew up with it

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 26 points 9 hours ago

YouTube changed. Of cause it always had some kind of algorithm but The Algorithm is relatively new

[-] QueenHawlSera@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I really hate it, YouTube has more restrictions than Cable TV now... I remember when you were allowed to reference the fact that death, bigotry, and sexual assault existed. Now on Youtube you're only allowed to reference the latter two if you're PragerU and tying to say these are "Good things ackshaulkly"

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, we've gone from 'charlie but me' to 'charlie pretends he's not a Nazi on a clip from fox news'

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 hours ago

Did Charlie get his kidney back? That damn Candy Mountain......

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[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 42 points 12 hours ago

Slightly off topic, but it just dawned on me that the youngest generation might not have as universal of a childhood compared to some before.

Like, everyone in school knew what SpongeBob was. Maybe you didn't have a TV or you didn't like watching it, but you knew the characters and the general gist of what happens in the show.

With kids on such giant platforms like YouTube, there's so much variety, I wonder if the "brand recognition" will be as strong in 10 years.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I imagine that 10-20 years from now, there will be a lot more young adults bonding over vague memories of videos that they loved when little, but that they can't find a shred of anymore. Creators will have risen and fallen through the years. Some will shut down their channels and retire, others will be demonetized, and yet more will simply disappear without a trace. There won't be a backlog of every kids' video on YouTube; it's not like PBS or Nickelodeon, where popular shows might get officially archived. Instead, people will be left vaguely describing plots they can't fully remember, all the while getting a weird look from those who don't know what they're talking about. They may even come to think, "Maybe I just dreamed it all up?" and give up on their search for nostalgic connection.

Until the day one person finds an old screenshot from whatever the show was and shares it. That's when everyone will flip out because, Holy shit, that's it! That's the show! At which point, they will collectively and slowly realize just how messed up the show actually was.

[-] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

I'm 29 and this is already the case. A lot of the early 2000s internet is already getting hard to find, and even a lot of early YouTube feels like it's been scrubbed clean, or had stuff auto-muted/removed due to copyright that drastically affects the content. Not to mention all the flash animations and whatnot that might not have made it to somewhere as big as Newgrounds. There's a lot of stuff I remember watching that seems to be utterly lost

[-] QueenHawlSera@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Early 2000's internet was best internet

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 35 points 11 hours ago

I’m sure most kids know about Skibidi Toilet, the Paul brothers and Mr Beast.

What’s worse, is that the Paul brothers and Mr Beast use their influence to promote products directly to the children. Like Prime.

[-] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 18 points 11 hours ago

Many shows when we were kids were just drivers for toy sales though. Product placement was also huge and unregulated.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 16 points 10 hours ago

True, but I like Transformers so it’s ok

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 11 points 10 hours ago

I don't remember the people behind Power Rangers using their influence to get me to agree to being put through what amounts to torture for the hope of getting enough money to pay my bills though.

[-] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

There were a good few game shows with that theme.

[-] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 8 hours ago

That’s odd, because I seem remember lots of pro-capitalist messaging on TV when I was growing up.

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 4 points 8 hours ago

We were pressured to buy the toys, but we didn't have anything on the order of IRL Squid Game.

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[-] aliser@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

usually, by "woke" movies people mean movies only made for the sake of being "woke", no? like its only message is "here's all the diversity, look, look, at our big woke diverse movie! now, give us the moneys we are so diverse look at us and don't bother us anymore with your agenda!"

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Lol no. Often a video game will get called "woke" for simply having a female protagonist with short hair.

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 hours ago

God forbid she's muscular and doesn't show stereotypical hetero-normative traits too

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It's just so fucking boring... Imagine if every story, movies, TV, video games, etc., went back to only being about straight white men?

As a straight white man, it just sounds so fucking boring. I really do not get it.

Same for society in general. What a boring fucking country with boring food and literally no culture of their own beyond bigotry, that these people want. Just because they couldn't handle seeing a brown person doing better in life than them. To them that's an injustice that needs to be corrected.

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Assuming you're from the US, it's especially silly that these people are so up in arms about this given that the US was literally created on the backs of immigrants

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 hours ago

usually, by "woke" movies people mean movies only made for the sake of being "woke", no?

This is what people using the term really want you to think. That they're fine with incidental/statistically correct/non-performative diversity and inclusion and are just pointing out when it happens for the sake of itself to the detriment of the quality of media.

The reality though is quite different, and people will call "woke" at almost any non-white, non-straight, or non-male character in a major role, or a non-cis character in even a passing role.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 37 points 6 hours ago

Generally Republicans and Trumpists use "woke" to describe anything they don't like that seems to slightly swing liberal rather than anything specific.

Originally "woke" was slang in the black community meaning to understand the risks of being black in the world and basically was an equivalent of saying "drive safely!" or a Midwestern "watch for deer!" in wishing one a friendly goodbye

[-] spector@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago

Woke == Haram. It's christian sharia law. You know, that thing conservatives have been fear mongering about for what like 20 years. Except want their version of it for real.

[-] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 6 hours ago

Nah, there's a pretty huge list of "woke" video games and they include titles that have an optional 1 minute scene of homosexual romance.

[-] aliser@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

so, to just have something to be angry about

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 3 hours ago

The true snowflakes are always looking for something inconsequential to have a meltdown over

[-] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 hours ago

I'm pretty sure even if that was the case, the word was hijacked by bigots to insult anything they disagree with.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Black Panther was seemingly made for the sake of being the MCU's first black-lead movie. And it's great. Drag can't think of any other movies made for the sake of being woke, so we'll just have to rely on this sample size of 1 which says woke movies are awesome.

[-] skyspydude1@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

How much are we considering earlier Marvel as part of the MCU? Because even though it was before Iron Man/Hulk and the official "start" of the current MCU, a lot of people seem to forget that the Blade Trilogy existed...

[-] Mocheeze@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Howard the Duck.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

It was ok. I didn’t get the hype around it and didn’t think it was great or as good as everyone was saying it was.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Same. I was told "It's nothing like the other MCU movies, you'll love it!", and I watched it and... it's probably the best MCU movie I've seen, but still very MCU.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

That is the hyperbolic caricature conservatives apply in their head, sure.

It’s a pretty common approach to complicated issues.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 59 points 14 hours ago

Woke is when eyes more open. Checks out.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 13 hours ago

Well, I am not "woke", I am eepy.

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