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Back in the medieval ages when a woman was married to a man, they were basically considered property for my understanding and treated like an extension of the man's person and family. So it was customary for women to take the man's last name since they were being joined to his family. But now here in the 21st century women are fully independent and last names don't really seem to mean much of anything. I mean what is Smith or McGregor or any last name really mean anymore? Especially in the digital age, lots of people have digital usernames like SarahSmith1727373. So the last name clearly doesn't mean much anymore.... Which leads me to wonder, why do the majority of women still take the man's last name? Especially when some of them have a horrible last name? I have seen some butt ass ugly last names recently, like Fink, Weimer, Slotsky/Slotsky, Hiscock (no joke this is a last name), Hardman.... And then you hear the woman's name and it's like something way more reasonable and less stupid sounding like Kingman, or Harrison, Walls, etc.

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[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Makes things easier for both parties when medical issues arise, even more so for parents. And I genuinely believe that a lot of women don't know it's an option.

I actually didn't change my name when my mom married my dad, so you can really just say "no." i was in middle school when I decided that, but whenever my dad tried to do anything, he had to jump through hoops. 🤷🏿‍♀️

[-] Toes@ani.social 4 points 1 month ago

I'm a fan of the hyphen strategy. I really don't wanna change my last name just cause I fell in love. But hyphenation sounds like a good compromise.

[-] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Hmm but what do you do if your name is already hyphenated? You can't just keep bolting names together so that's not a solution for more than one generation.

[-] Toes@ani.social 2 points 4 weeks ago

You do make a fair point. I just imagined someone trying to fit their entire genealogy on their ID like Daenerys Targaryen.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

You're seriously wondering why women would want to take Hardcock? Buddy, I hate to be the one one to have to tell you this, I even hate to even type it, but women LOVE Hardcock. It's a fun name. It's fun to say. What woman wouldn't want Hardcock coming out of their mouth? Plus you get to attend the family gatherings on holidays and family reunions. Just a woman, surrounded by Hardcocks. Hardcocks as far as the eye can see!

.........why is everybody giggling?

[-] ef9357@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 weeks ago

For me, it was because my husbands last name was simpler than my maiden name.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 4 weeks ago

Because it is easier to have 1 family name if you intend to have children.

[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

Because everyone knows who the mother is through birth and following months/years if they're lucky, and the only connection a father has with his children is a last name.

It's quite reasonable that mums want the same surname as their children so ..

The trouble with that is that between twenty and thirty percent of children, depending on source, call the wrong person 'dad'.

[-] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 weeks ago

No child calls the 'wrong' person dad. Dad is an earned title between a parent and child. Ejaculating doesn't make you a dad, just a sperm donor.

Same goes for Mom by the way unless you think adopted parents are also illegitimate.

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[-] dfi@lemmy.nz 4 points 4 weeks ago

After we were married wife kept her last name, partially for professional reasons partially because she didn't like my last name :-) When we had kids we decided that the kids would have my last name to avoid hyphen hell and her last name is super generic so any time she has to search for an account at the bank or anything like that she almost always has someone else with the same first and last name it can be a pain to find the correct "her"

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 3 points 4 weeks ago

I didn't change my name. My perspective is that my identity doesn't change just because I got married. My name has been mine since birth and it'll remain that way.

[-] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 3 points 4 weeks ago

It helps with legal documents and proof of ownership of equity if both last names are the same. Taking the man's last name is just an archaic tradition but I do agree that having both last names the same is useful.

I will say though that people who hyphenate both their last name's are fucking psychopaths. Just choose one. Don't make other people have to remember 2 last names.

[-] IsSeptemberOverYet@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 4 weeks ago

Don't make other people have to remember 2 last names. The tradition in most Spanish speaking countries is having two last names. Women don't take their spouse's surname. Instead, the child gets the first surname of both parents.

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

My wife took my last name because she had her father’s last name. He abandoned her shortly after birth and never attempted to get in touch with her. He quit jobs to avoid paying support. She did it to remove that last vestige of him from her life. Had she had her mother’s last name we would have hyphenated our names together.

[-] Yprum@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

I am originally from Spain but have since moved abroad where partners changing names is common.

Personally I love the way it is handled in Spain, where you get your family name at birth and won't be changed by marrying (you could change it but it is not normal to do it when you get married). And the family name is always a combination of both parents. Traditionally it was the first family name from the father and the first from the mother, but nowadays it can be decided which goes first. So officially everyone's got two family names, one from each parent. Unofficially you can just go as far as you want, so you get your given name, then first family name from one parent, then first from the other, then the second from the first, then the second from the second, etc. So if you track your family tree you can take all family names to make a huge list of them, which is not used for anything but somehow makes you be more attached to all those roots without names being lost.

Of course that makes it a nightmare when going to other places, everyone thinks your first family name is a middle name and dealing with two family names officially can be a pain. And let's not go into naming your kids then...

When I was marrying my wife she asked me how I felt about her changing her name to mine and if I wanted her to do that. She got her father's name but her mother divorced him later on and changed her name back and my wife's father was not much part of her life, so she was happy to just change it. I told her that for me that custom is a bit strange and I didn't need her to do it but would accept it if she wanted to (knowing her background), so whatever she did I wanted it to be her choice, but notice how in Spain people who share family name are siblings, as it is extremely rare for two persons to share both first and second name if not related, so sharing family name with my wife is really odd in a way...

At the end she changed her name, but because in this country you only have one she only took the first one. While our kids had to take either both of mine or hers (we had our first kid before us marrying and her changing name, so we chose mine), so now we all share the first (and only, in the case of my wife) family name but me and my kids have both my first and second family name (any kids after the first kid must get the same name).

If that was not complex enough, as I got my kids both nationalities, in Spain the rule is always first of one parent plus first of the other parent, and as the first one was born before us marrying, in Spain he has a different family name than he does where we live.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

It's tradition in my country but not mandatory. The archaic government system is also easier to navigate through if a married couple have same the last name. Because it's so common for a wife to take her husband's last name, it immediately raises eyebrows when people claim to be married but have different surnames. In our case, my wife took my last name because she just likes it better than hers. It's neutral and easier to pronounce.

[-] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Especially in the digital age, lots of people have digital usernames like SarahSmith1727373. So the last name clearly doesn't mean much anymore....

but you also just used 2 names in your example... others here already said the right stuff, but I reiterate, it's a lot of symbolism helping create feelings of unity in a family unit, but also there are legal issues/benefits for changing a last name.

[-] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

When I get married, I'm thinking hyphenated, with her using her last name first, and vice versa. But last names can be pretty large. Idk how to tackle that.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Now is the lastname Kangaroo, or PussyKangeroo?

[-] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Ackshually, its El Kangaroo, the Pussy is silent.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[-] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Its the FINAL COUNTDOWN! PINUNEEENUUUUU!

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

I can't say for sure why. When I got married she just wanted to take one of my names (I have two last names). I'm not famous or anything, so it doesn't carry any clout. Maybe she wanted a fancy sounding hyphenated name too, because she added one of mine to her current one.

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