I really wonder if people like this have a playbook, like have they read history and put together a step by step guide at this point for maximizing assholery, or does behavior like this sort of emerge naturally as the assholes take control? Like why do we see this over and over in authoritarian regimes, is it natural or are they copycats?

Sidebar: today I learned the word assholery is a real word, I thought I just made it up lol

As with all religious stuff, that's just your opinion. The sahih bukhari suggests otherwise, putting music in the same vein as 'illegal sexual intercourse' (and wearing silk, cuz why not lmao)

I agree but can you share more history or a source? I work in a school and some members of my community opt out of music for religious reasons which I think is BS and a totally extreme view. I don't think it is in the Quran bit someone told me it is in the hadith.

Assholes

We did. As soon as we left they went right back to their old ways.

Kick yo ass den we gonna come home

Depends who you are, I guess. For women, leaving alone is very difficult if not impossible as you would need a male guardian to escort you.

As a man it it's easier but comes down to the money. Most people there are very poor and in a country where family an tribal ties are really important, it is very difficult to pack up your things and leave.

Also, poor Afgan refugees are not received very well by other countries. They are also afraid of the lunacy of the fundamentalist religious movement spreading.

Like any country Afganistan has wealthy people too and for them leaving is probably the easiest.

On general note, Afganistan is a prime example of what a fundamentalist leadership and religion can lead to. Can happen in other countries and outside of Islam too. We should be aware of this.

Nah, I think there is evidence that Neandertals appreciated the arts. These people are just jerks.

Don't they usually sing their prayers and hymns in islam tradition? At least that's what I think they are broadcasting from the minarets.

I have buddies that served in Afghanistan and what I'll share will sound shitty, but reality sometimes is simply shitty.

The country is just full of uneducated superstitious, goat herders. There isn't real allegiance to "Afghanistan" as a country, so building a unified democracy is/was pretty much impossible.

They were training Afghan troops but would never turn their backs on them lol, they said they'd frequently try to pull shit and the concept of discipline, leadership that you need for a stable military / police simply isn't in the culture.

People were hoping for post ww2 Germany, but Germany was a country filled with educated people with a history of order Afghanistan has just been tribes at war for decades.... There was no way to make it work.

That's not to say that Afghanistan doesn't have good people in it that just want peace feed their family and live, but at its current state it's not going to be anything but a theocratic hell hole.

I have to admit, it kind of shocks me that so few people in Afghanistan were unwilling to fight the Taliban when they knew just how bad they were/could be. People were desperate enough to try clinging to the exterior of planes when western forces were leaving, but not desperate enough to fight back. I don't know, it's tragic and confusing at the same time.