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[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 113 points 11 months ago
[-] sudneo@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

I wish it was only Ryan Air, every other company does that nowadays. Every time I travel alone I end up switching seat a couple of times to let couples and families sit together.

[-] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

They once wanted twice as much as booking another ticket to change a name...

[-] Airazz@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It's to combat ticket resellers.

[-] vodkasolution@feddit.it 3 points 11 months ago

.. and Ryan will say "fuck clients' money"

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Which is fair and should happen. You're going to pay it anyways, but now they need to tell right up how much it'll be.

[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Hey at least they don't overbook.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 10 months ago

I travel for work, only once I've ended up being overbooked on a flight in Europe, and that was when I booked the ticket like two hours before.

[-] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 59 points 11 months ago

That's my EU

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 47 points 11 months ago

I can see the argument for hand luggage prices when most airline planes don't have enough room in the overhead compartments if everybody maxes them out, and the process of sorting that stuff out often adds substantial delays when loading and unloading. I'm not sure the right answer here, but I can see how there's a legit discussion to be had there.

But the "charging to sit next to your family members" has always been indefensible.

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

agreed, on both. bring luggage, pay for it. bring your 5 yo, sit together if possible. (obv if there aren't two seats together because it's a last minute thing, no holds barred)

[-] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 10 months ago

If we're talking hidden fees it's not really about allowing more luggage, just making sure that when you find a price for a flight online, it includes a reasonable amount of hand luggage to make comparisons with other airlines actually fair. With companies continuously shrinking the included hand luggage you may find yourself charged for a trolley that required no additional fees until just a while ago.

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago

At the very least, it should be illegal to use the misleading tactics they use for things like seats. Not sure if airlines in the EU differ (I'm Canadian), but seemingly every airline here tries to make the seat selection seem like it's mandatory. While I've never fallen for that, I wonder how many people pay for their seats simply because they didn't realize it's possible not to?

And Flair here in Canada is the budget airline whose whole thing is that they advertise prices that don't include a carry-on (which is standard with every other airline in Canada). But if you want a carry-on, they'll charge so much that their flights are often roughly the same price as the competition (and they push bundling carry-on + checked bag so that people will pay more than they need). Flair is great if you know what you're doing, since a backpack fits the "personal item" size limit and is all I need for short trips, but many people don't realize how it works and think they have to pay for the carry-on, plus Flair gets their listings to show up higher in search results because they will list the base price. Google Flights makes it clear that there's no carry-on, but it still shows those flights first and someone without familiarity with Flair won't expect carry-ons to cost as much as they do.

[-] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago

Most airlines do the same shit in Europe, and what makes it worse is that when you buy tickets in groups or with your partner for example, they intentionally place you separate even if there is free space next to one of the seats so that you then have to buy at least one seat to place it next to the other assigned seat. Wizzair actually used to place people together before, but then they intentionally broke it and now charge 40€ for the solution to the problem they created.

I'm happy to hear that regulators are getting involved now.

[-] WuTang@lemmy.ninja 13 points 11 months ago

I would prefer a ban on surbooking. This practice is unethical and close to scam.

Missing a flight is highly impacting

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 11 months ago

I hope they do the same for trains

[-] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago
[-] realitista@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I love living in the EU.

[-] Redex68@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Man idk if that's actually better. Most airlines are barely profitable as is, this just means the cost will get spread out to all customers instead of only the ones paying premiums. It does feel shitty to be nickel and dimed for every little thing, but I'm not sure if this is better.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 months ago

Fee based pricing IS predatory, though. Often times, it's preying on people who lack resources and capital in order to subsidize those with greater financial security.

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