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[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 33 points 6 days ago

bro just raise the radar bro the horizon will be further away bro totally time for countermeasures bro

[-] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago

Just make a hovering AWACS that can hold U2 elevation. Then the gunship could hit targets across the pacific.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 25 points 6 days ago
[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 8 points 6 days ago

Rigid frame airship.

The term "Zeppelin" makes people nervous. They think they're made with lead.

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 9 points 6 days ago

Modern Zeppelin are semi-rigid 😛

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 6 days ago

And ribbed for her pleasure.

[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

AC-5 Funship enters the chat

[-] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 6 days ago

At that point it would be easier for it to be an orbital (intraplanetary?) platform, pic for reference https://files.catbox.moe/cejyk6.jpg

[-] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

but then we wouldn't be defeating the whining about water battleships and the horizon

[-] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 6 days ago

Plenty of horizon in low orbit!

[-] Glemek@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Y not tethered awacs weatherballon??

[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

massively parallel synthetic aperture awacs via drone swarm

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

The Pagoda Mast was a good idea, but not tall enough. 40m? C'mon, with modern tech we can do 100m easy.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 days ago

With the success of drones in Ukraine, I wonder if the future's just going to be midget drone-mothership subs.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I’m in for outrageous Ace Combat style drone carriers with their own point defense.

https://acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Arsenal_Bird

And conventional warhead ballistic missile subs with drone launchers:

https://acecombat.fandom.com/wiki/Hrimfaxi

It’s “last second” MIRV too, so more politically correct.

The Japanese had things figured out in 2004, lol.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 days ago

midget drone-mothership subs.

So is it a the mothership that's a drone, or the midget subs? The latter would make more sense.

[-] fist_of_fartitude@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago

It would be a regular sized sub that's a drone mothership, crewed entirely by midgets

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Smart, you can fit an entire extra story inside that way. And they're less likely to mutiny if HAL decides when they surface.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Drones must be terrifying for midgets.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Maybe, but they are our last defense against nano bots.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

The subs contain lots of drones, but the subs are unmanned, making them drones, and they're launched by a bigger mothership sub that's also a drone. All manned by midgets pretending to be AI, of course.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Military planning like that is exceedingly difficult and we're almost always wrong. Like fixed fortifications, in history there's at least 6 major moves away from fixed fortifications because they became "obsolete". A few years later some new design or invention comes about and suddenly fixed fortifications are en vogue again.

In this case I think the definition of a battleship will just change like it did for dread/pre-dread ships. Eventually I think it will be twin high velocity low throw weight railguns in a all or nothing armored extremely low freeboard stealth hull.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

Battleships being at the center of naval plans obviously changed. But, I think you're right that something battleshippy will probably still exist.

I mean, look how long it took for the spear to go away. With bayonets you could argue that they've never gone away. But, they're now a secondary thing, rather than the primary thing armies are designed around.

I could imagine a future where a sea-tank exists, something that can take a hit and attack with direct-fire weapons. Having said that, the war in Ukraine is showing that a multi-million dollar tank can be taken out with a few hundred dollars in drone gear. Battleships are/were closer to $1 billion, and they were already mostly obsolete when they were in danger from multi-million dollar planes, dropping thousand dollar bombs, piloted by pilots who had been trained at the cost of millions of dollars.

[-] Trollception@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Get out of here with your down to earth and sensible thinking. This is Lemmy!

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Carrier Has Arrived

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

Design battleship to the brim with CIWS

Have a few token main guns

Park ship inside the enemy's missile range to theoretically fire guns

Spend entire hostility mulching their missiles as they focus on you

[-] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Eh if it’s big enough just use something with orbital velocity.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Orbital battleships will take it out.

[-] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago
[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

That Wii accessory? Yeah that's the one.

[-] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I think the Yamato predates the Wii.

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

According to "experts".

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

…what about a battleship with turret-catapult A10 float planes?..

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 6 days ago

But does it go "brrrrrrrrrrt" ?

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Scale it up.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 points 6 days ago

Plus the 16" guns can fire nuclear shells. It's like the Davy Crockett's big brother.

[-] Droechai@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Wouldn't you want the Explosive* payload be nuclear rather than the shell? Seems dangerous for the crew

Edited forgotten word to make it clearer

[-] ooterness@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Imma let you finish, but a gatling gun made of 16" guns is strictly better than a regular 16" gun.

See also: This unit from Supreme Commander

[-] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

What about a gattling gun using 16" guns as ammo, then?

[-] ooterness@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Somebody get DARPA on this, stat.

[-] AlexisFR@jlai.lu 4 points 6 days ago

Gets lasered out*

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