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Full Caucus Set to Vote After Key Panel Picks Pelosi-Backed Dem Over AOC for Oversight Spot (www.commondreams.org)

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Rep. Ro Khanna said that "many" in the House Democratic caucus, including himself, will back Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in Tuesday's vote.

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 107 points 1 day ago

Ngl I think AOC should straight up form a new party with Bernie or something like that, because the DNC is just gonna keep giving us the neoliberal shit sandwich until they’re subsumed by the Republican Party outright (other parties being outlawed, of course).

I know that end-state sounds hyperbolic, but at this point I wouldn’t be shocked if that’s how things eventually play out if this authoritarian slide continues.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 44 points 1 day ago

Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to 'build coalitions' by working within the party

If this is what she got for her support of Israel and 'working within the party', then I think she might have been taken for a ride

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 20 points 1 day ago

Except she spent the last election cycle mocking third parties and saying you need to 'build coalitions' by working within the party

She is right. Divide and conquer is a super effective strategy, the left loves doing the divide part to itself then acts shocked when it gets conquered.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 14 points 23 hours ago

When your left-wing coalition depends on kowtowing to capital to survive, it isn't left-wing anymore.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 6 points 23 hours ago

So make yourself smaller, less relevant, less resources but ideologically pure. Not exactly a winning formula. You go to war with the army you've got, not the army you wish you had.

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[-] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

Like how Bernie "worked with" the Dems by bending the knee to Hillary after the 2016 primary?

Yeah idk why the progressives think they can work with the right wing obstructionists that are the Democratic party.

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[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's not a bad idea. However, better would be a reforming and rebranding of the current DNC's image. It is the right time to begin setting the foundations though, make no mistake.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago

However, better would be a reforming and rebranding of the current DNC's image.

And how would anyone go about that when the party leadership is fighting them at every turn?

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

The only legal way would be to mimic the corporations that captured the DNC to begin with, basically bribes.

You'd have to create a super PAC that only funds left leaning democratic candidates, and one that would be willing to fund primaries against incumbents within the DNC.

The main problem is that parties only care about funding now, and there aren't exactly a bunch of leftist billionaires.

Citizens vs United basically ensured that any form of social economic reform is off the table for the foreseeable future. The political parties are bought and paid for, and will continue to funnel public spending into privatization until capitalism reaches terminal growth.

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[-] scarabine@lemmynsfw.com 130 points 1 day ago

Goddamn just not gonna improve shit even a little bit, huh Democrats?

[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago

Democrats aiming to lose what little support the have left.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 63 points 1 day ago

They would prefer to lose everything rather than move Left even a single inch.

[-] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

And they have spent the last nine years proving that to everyone.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The thing is, when your horse is so high, you tend to overlook those down in the mud. But fear not! When that horse tips over, it’s a long and painful way down for those sitting so high up.

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

at least they’ll still have liz cheney

[-] zib@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Gotta maintain that sweet status quo at all costs.

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

And by status quo, we mean giving ground to the right year after year.

[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Political parties in general tend to be extremely hard-headed and reticent to change. It often takes 3 or more elections being lost in the wilderness to get some turnover going.

The US, with its insanely gerrymandered districts, seems especially well positioned to keep the unpopular gerontocracy going as long as possible.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

It often takes 3 or more elections being lost in the wilderness to get some turnover going.

I don't think US democracy will survive two more Republican presidents.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

The real test is the DNC chair election on 2/2/25.

It'll honestly determine who wins 2028 more than who the candidates are I believe.

If Ben Wikler gets it, I think he'll listen to voters and let a fair primary happen. If we get that, we'll win the general regardless. But the party immediately picking a favorite and mixing money together before the first primary vote is cast just turns off Dem voters.

We at least need the illusion that there's a fair process

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago

"Pelosi's penchant for backroom sabotage was easy to cheer when she was pushing fellow octogenarian and likely loser Joe Biden out of the presidential race; it's harder to justify when an eminently qualified rising star—who, whether Pelosi likes it personally or not, is widely known to be a cornerstone of the party's future—pushes for a simple promotion," Sammon added.

God damn...

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fuck the Democratic Party. We demand Progressive Party

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Now is the perfect time to put together a new party. We have two years to make it viable. Assuming we still have elections.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

!newpoliticalparty@lemmy.world is a new community for this purpose. Unfortunate it’s on .world

[-] JTPorkins@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Bring back the moose!

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Hopefully the old fuck just has a stroke tomorrow and keels over. That would be a fitting divine punishment for his hubris and desperate clinging to power. Those that refuse to let the next generation take the reins in their time deserve to sudden suffer sudden heart attacks. Peaceful retirement is for those who actually are willing to retire.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 23 hours ago

Where's a Death Note when the world needs one?

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

If I get my hands on one of those, I'm going to need a microfiche writer...

Also, be prepared for a thousand fold multiplying of deaths due to auto-erotic asphyxiation...

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

We need so many more Luigi's to fix this country for the hand sitters.
-Me, a hand sitter

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

> I'm here to end insider politics!

> *plays insider politics*

> *gets fucked by insider politics*

Who could have seen this coming?

[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 16 hours ago

Imagine being such a hater that's up your own ass that you hate AOC.

[-] blattrules@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It’s great when the people running the country on both sides refuse to learn anything from their mistakes.

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