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[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 117 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I love that "innovation" with big US companies always means acquiring another company. Not like EA is a big innovator either.

It always reminds me of this.

[–] Bldck@beehaw.org 53 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Or AOL-Time-Warner-Pepsico-Viacom-Halliburton-Skynet-Toyota-Trader-Joe's from Bojack Horseman

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Wait so how many companies are there in the world now?"

"Nine."

[–] llii@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but don't worry. It's not a monopoly until only one company bought every other.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ooohhhh, please don't suggest anyone buy Trader Joe's. That would F Up my world.

[–] moody 5 points 2 years ago

Trader Joe's is already owned by Aldi.

[–] Leafeytea@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

😂 😂 💜

[–] OfficialThunderbolt@beehaw.org 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But why? Disney has made several attempts before to break into gaming, none of which have worked out well. The best Disney games have all been licensed games by Square Enix, BioWare, Capcom, etc.

Also, Disney doesn't have the cash to buy EA, so buying EA would involve them going deeply into debt. With today's interest rates, that would be too risky.

[–] kboy101222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Man, I miss Disney Infinity. The toy requirement was stupid, but the building was a ton of fun

[–] Jinxyface@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The best Disney games have all been licensed games by Square Enix, BioWare, Capcom, etc.

That's why they're going to want to buy those studios.

[–] OfficialThunderbolt@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They can't buy Square Enix or Capcom; Japan has laws protecting certain Japanese companies from being bought out by foreign companies.

[–] MAQ22@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@OfficialThunderbolt @Jinxyface it's ashamed more countries & gov't are to fiscally driven to legally prevent monopolies when they've been known to be destructive

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Video games aren't in danger of becoming a monopoly, but that kind of measure seems more aimed at preventing foreigners from having too much influence.

[–] Jinxyface@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Video games aren't in danger of becoming a monopoly,

Microsoft, a trillion dollar tech conglomerate, has just purchased multiple of the entire video game's largest publishers. It is entirely in danger of becoming a monopoly

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How many games came out in 2023? How many of those do Microsoft own? How much do you think that second number changes over the next 10 years? There are so, so, so many video game companies out there that Microsoft doesn't own.

[–] Jinxyface@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not about how many Microsoft owns. It's how large the ones they own are. Microsoft has essentially made long time huge third party developers/publishers part of their company now, that's corporate consolidation and should never be defended or justified in any way.

Microsoft has trillions of dollars. They have the capital, workforce, and time to build up their own studios. If the only way a trillion dollar company can "compete" in a space is to consolidate that space by applying anti consumer tactics like buying out longstanding publishers, that's stupid and a lie.

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hard disagree. Sony's in a dominant position specifically because of anti consumer tactics like exclusives. These games can take 5+ years to make, so the only way Microsoft catches up at all during this console generation is via acquisitions (of companies looking to sell, mind you). The only way their trillions of dollars (of market cap, not cash on hand) helps them anytime soon is acquisitions. And also remember that these acquisitions came up in response to Sony seeking further exclusivity of things like Starfield and Call of Duty.

And once again, there's just so much to the video game market that neither of those companies own. Video games are an international industry made up of many, many, many participants, and even Microsoft is nowhere close to having a majority of it.

[–] Jinxyface@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sony being in a "dominant" position doesn't mean the answer is to just let Microsoft buy out a nice chunk of the larger industry as a whole.

Microsoft has money, they can use that to create and invest and build up studios themselves. Corporate consolidation never helps anyone but the company buying out the other company.

Microsoft buying out Betheda and ActiBlizz will not benefit consumers in any way

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sony being in that dominant position puts them in something much closer to a monopoly of their segment of the market than Microsoft is post-acquisition. Building up studios takes a lot of time, which would translate to Sony further running away with their market position. I'm not exactly pro-acquisition; I'm just not anti-this-acquisition, especially when there are a lot of games and IPs from the past that Activision has no incentive to revive but Microsoft does. That is something about this acquisition that benefits customers and not just Microsoft.

[–] Jinxyface@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

That is something about this acquisition that benefits customers and not just Microsoft.

Yeah, but only the customers that Microsoft allows to play that product. What about Bethesda games being longstanding multi platform IPs that are now locked to Xbox consoles and Playstation users who might have been playing them on their consoles since Oblivion now get fucked.

Acquisitions like this are fine UNLESS it's a multi trillion dollar conglomerate gobbling up the industry's largest players. That is not beneficial to anyone. And there is no way to justify it is

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 32 points 2 years ago
[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well they can't make EA any worse, right? Right??

[–] Granixo@feddit.cl 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sure, because it did wonders for Fox and Marvel.

(And casually ruined Marvel vs Capcom Infinite).

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Don't they technically already own LucasArts when they bought LucasFilms back in 2012?

Is that not big enough?

[–] acastcandream@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

Don’t they technically already own LucasArts when they bought LucasFilms back in 2012?

They shut it down within months :\ killed Star Wars 1313 in the process.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I dunno but I do love those last couple of Jedi games.. love that shit, and I don't really like star wars

[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If they remake Jedi Knight II and III, I'm in.

So I'm not in, basically.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Dark Forces is getting a remaster, and Dark Forces 2 is the first Jedi Knight title.

So you might have a chance, maybe.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Souls-like, but not as difficult.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I kinda support this since it means Disney will probably kill it off in a year.

really though you can thank microsoft buying activision for this trend

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

You don't think embracer deserves some of the credit here? They've been buying up studios for a decade now and just got to the point where they are closing them. It's popular IP consolidation.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mouse couldn't run EA worse than EA is run now. Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rule 2 of the videogame industry: if you think something can't get worse, it absolutely fucking will within a month or two

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

See also: Unity