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If you even say the word "guillotine" in most forums and you get banned, so no wonder things will never escalate to where they need to.
Liberals: "We want change NOW!"
Me too my brothers!
Liberals: "The Christo-fascists are taking control!"
Too late, they're in control and consolidating power.
Liberals: "Cops are running amok and accountable to no one!"
No shit. Just now figuring this out?
Liberals: "Turn in your guns and disarm yourselves!"
hold up...
My take is that if I went out in the public square tomorrow and they were setting up head removal devices and lining up landlords and student loan recovery agents and fossil fuel executives on the scaffold, I would shake my head and say "You know, I wanted to do this with progressive tax policy and UBI, but you broke democracy, so here we are..."
Democracy and peaceful protest aren't just nice things that we do for fun. They're what prevent the streets from running red when enough people get angry enough to do something. They're MUCH BETTER than violent revolution, for all parties involved. Any member of a ruling class that thinks they can prevent change when the time for change has come will find themselves in very bad trouble, sooner or later.
Mass disruption of the economy?
Well we should really try a mass protest first. If we can actually get people together we can see if mass protest work. The only other attentive is to compost the rich!
One huge problem is that we're too gatekeep-y to the political "other". If a large chunk of the population is excluded because you don't like who they voted for, you'll never get enough people marching to see a change
To protest what? That's the problem with modern times. Everyone is dead set in there beliefs and protesting doesn't change that.
Vincent Bevins just published a new book on this topic:
If We Burn; The Mass Protest Decade and the Missing Revolution
He was interviewed about it on the TrueAnon podcast, but I dunno if that was in the public feed or the bonus feed.
and no one gives a shit ( anyhow his first book about the CIA was pretty cool, too! I heard an interview with him about the new book on the Intercept podcast, and his narrative is something I‘ve been thinking about for some time. It‘s actually insane how the right could take the initiative instead of the left and now there‘s only little room to manoeuvre.
If you mean The Jakarta Method, Washington's Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World, that was one of the best books I've ever read. Blew me away. That's how I recognized his name in the show notes for the latest podcast interview.
yes! For some reason I was assuming it was his first book
We all fart into pillows for hours, then tell the baddies we bought a new fabric softener that smells like peach
People expect way to much change from a single protest. You need to contact your representative and get enough people to join in order to get some attention.
Your protest also can't be silly like a lot of recent protests are don't go protest the 2016 election or 2020 election as you will accomplish nothing. Also make sure you have some sort of purpose or end goal. All of the protests I've heard about have no purpose.
So you're going to ignore the decades of protests about climate action? That have all been ignored because the people in power will never give a shit about your protest if its easily ignored.
Small protests are easily ignored. DC climate action protest - 75k people in a nation of 300+ million - even if the muster 1m it's still peanuts. It doesn't even move the needle.
Take that same number, 1 million, and have the vast majority be from Georgia marching in Atlanta. Georgia is 10m with 7m available voters. Now we have enough numbers to push the needle.
Sure it's not on a Federal level, but politics are local. Federal action is a quagmire unless enough localities begin to gel behind a single direction - then those seeking Federal office will have to pivot.
I'm from the UK, the biggest protests in my countries history were the stop the war protest in 2003 where 1.5 million people attended and the protests for a second EU referendum where the largest had 1.2 million protest.
And because they were both peaceful protests, they were completely and easily ignored.
Then if you compare that to just about any protest in France where less popple protest, but they do so in a way that isn't easily ignored, they get far more shit done.
The UK had its chance with the EU referendum and voted to leave. The populace had a chance to voice its opinion and it did.
There's a couple hundred arguments as to why that's horse shit, but give only a couple:
The brexit that was promised and voted for was not the one that was delivered, nor was it even possible.
By the time it actually happened and the protests were happening enough of the pro brexit population had died that if the same vote where to happen the exact same way, remain would have won.
And that right there is the problem.
Not enough people care, and the will never care. Most people just want to know that tonight there is bread in the table and that at least this month they'll be okay. Most people don't really look beyond that, nor do they want yo, or they feel like their voice won't matter anyeay.
I guess it's sort of the same reason why so few people vote. If everyone that could vote would vote, the Republican party would cease to exist the next day. But alas, people don't. Republicans relatively speaking, do vote a shit load and with that they get a lot of power, something that is nicely exploited by the assholes
If we take out the guillotines, there will be much change from a single protest
this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
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