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[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

I know a solution for billionaire robber barons.

[-] randompasta@lemmy.today 76 points 3 days ago

Glad to see them finally labeled Robber Barons. Because that's exactly what they are.

[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago

Oligarchs is IMO a better term for our times. Robbers Barons has an archaic sound to it.

I've also noticed defenders of corruption/oligarchs really dislike this term.

[-] normalexit@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Robber barrons is nice in that it is archaic, and shows us things haven't really ever changed.

I use oligarchs in polite conversation, but it's nice to have options.

[-] quicklime@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

I was about to comment nearby that the phrase "billionaire robber barons" is redundant because there are no billionaires who are not living and profiting by means that should be illegitimate.

But you just reminded me that even "robber barons" is a conflicted term because it implies that there is or was some other type of more acceptable, more legitimate baron.

I suppose I'm probably playing "too socialist for school" here, but there never should have been any barons, and right now there ought not to be any billionaires. Their very existence is proof of a failed form of government.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl -1 points 3 days ago

I prefer plutocrats to oligarchs. It points out that the problem is wealth disparity, specifically

[-] mercphilby@discuss.online 8 points 3 days ago

Gonna be another 100 years before anything does something.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 days ago

This is key. The right vs left, culture wars, even, I suspect, focus on proxy wars -- all of it is meant to distract the people from the fact they have been bought and sold by the rich.

Rich vs everyone else is the conflict to focus. Everything else is distraction. And, what do you know? We The People have a lot in common if we start talking about wealth disparity.

[-] kinther@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Reframing is important

[-] markpaskal@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago

Yes, the issue is billionaire robber barons, AND the issue is that they are importing cheap labor to replace Americans, AND the cheap labor is suppressing wages for Americans. It's even worse than the TFW program in Canada as it applies to skilled labor that is available in the US, but more expensive.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

But the cheap labour is only cheap because the robber barrons allow it to be.

[-] ours@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yep, they are also being abused with the added "bonus" of helping pit workers against workers instead of all workers against the super-rich.

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 48 points 3 days ago
[-] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

It's absolutely fucking flabbergasting that that hasn't always been the case, everywhere. I mean, WTF: the word "theft" is right there in the damn name!

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Cool, but I doubt anyone will actually see jail time. Maybe a fall guy, at best.

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 2 points 2 days ago

There were recently a few egregious cases that were heavily fined. I suspect that if they were prosecuted with these new laws the outcome would be prison, but I'm not a lawyer and I don't pretend to be one on the Internet.

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 3 points 2 days ago

711 probably deserves it from what I've heard

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

ahh..

I see your society still believes in the rule of law.

[-] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 3 days ago

I'll believe it when I see a CEO extradited to Aus for it.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Oh, but that's but a ten year long accident, nothing deliberate /s

[-] aaaa@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Uh... How is it a distraction? It's the same problem

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

No, but you see, this issue has the far right fighting amongst themselves. We must ignore this part of the issue and focus on the big picture where the far right are united. That would be better for some reason...

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 days ago

Err, H1B visas are part of that system of exploitation. Maybe we should let them fued over it some more.

[-] nifty@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Pretty much yeah, the uber wealthy constantly distract from the fact that they’re not paying their fair share to society for all the benefits they get from its structure and organization

[-] Linktank@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago

Gee, who could that be?

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

always has been

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl -1 points 3 days ago

Soon to be trillionare

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