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The Alliance for Automotive Innovation said the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's (NHTSA) Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) proposal was unreasonable and requested significant revisions.

The industry group argued the plan would boost average vehicle prices by $3,000 by 2032 because of penalties automakers would face for not being in compliance, adding the figure "exceeds reason and will increase costs to the American consumer with absolutely no environmental or fuel savings benefits."

NHTSA in July proposed boosting requirements by 2% per year for passenger cars and 4% per year for pickup trucks and SUVs from 2027 through 2032, resulting in a fleet-wide average fuel efficiency of 58 miles (93 km) per gallon.

The American Automotive Policy Council, a group representing the Detroit Three automakers, separately on Monday urged NHTSA to halve its proposed fuel economy increases to 2% annually for trucks, saying the proposal "would disproportionately impact the truck fleet."

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[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

Alternative headline -- Automakers whine they must increase gas mileage; will likely wipe out their super lucrative truck/SUV sales

[-] lettruthout@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Then: Seat belts are needlessly expensive. Later: look at the new safety feature we added!

Now: These new rules are needlessly expensive. After new model release: look at what great mileage it gets!

I'm tired of this.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

The industry group argued the plan would boost average vehicle prices by $3,000 by 2032 because of penalties automakers would face for not being in compliance.

Isn’t the whole idea of penalizing noncompliance to prevent it from becoming business as usual?

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They'll have affordable Chinese EV competitors by then.

So, the idea they're pushing that they have the option of raising prices is essentially a lie.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The industry group argued the plan would boost average vehicle prices by $3,000 by 2032 because of penalties automakers would face for not being in compliance

So what they are saying is the penalties need to be higher because they are still small enough that the companies think they should eat them rather than improve efficiency.

From my perspective, these don't even go far enough, but improving efficiency is more important than the survival of the automakers.

[-] Acters@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Not only are the penalties small enough to eat, but it's small enough to kick it down to the consumers.

[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lib.lgbt 4 points 1 year ago

That boost in price is minimal compared to how much they raised prices in the last 2 years.

[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I like that there is a separate, and higher percentage improvement needed for pickup trucks and SUV's, because Im pretty sure fuel economy standards and the dodging thereof are part of the reason for all the SUV's and other large vehicles.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

So they're saying they could have produced more fuel efficient cars all along, they just didn't want to.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

The 2012 rule was aimed at 5% increase a year. The Trump 2020 time was for 1.5% increase per year. This 2023 assume for 4% per year. Though the above splits passenger cars from trucks/SUVs.

My other numbers from https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/politics/trump-fuel-efficiency-standards/index.html

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

No thanks. I agree that cars cause a lot of problems and it would be better if there was a high speed train system and more bike lanes in the U.S., but too much of !fuckcars is people talking about something they know nothing about and blaming Americans for the world's problems.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I recognized that reference!

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Something tells me it will just result in more pedestrian deaths 🤔

[-] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The Alliance for Automotive Innovation (anti-innovation division) said...

Gotta love the newspeak way these lobbying groups name themselves.

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