Proton has not gone rogue.

proton works, idc what one of the 5 owners say, it is impossible to avoid that type of people

Tuta. Regardless of email provider, chose one that lets you use your own domain - that way it's easier to change providers.

I still use proton, even after their terrible trump takes, but mostly because I have the legacy tier subscription and I haven't found a better alternative.

I've been using mailbox.org for a couple of years now (a full switch from gmail to make sure I hadn't left anything over took me about a year), and I'm very happy with the service, can wholeheartedly recommend.

https://mxroute.com/ if you need many different domains and email addresses but don't need a huge amount of space, very cheap and just works.

But if you have issues the guys who run it are quite rough and brutal, so support wil be tough on you and expect you know a lot about protocols, etc.

Posteo. Seems like it's missing love here. Simple, out of the way, it just works.

Email isn't private. It was designed to be robust not private. Encryption never really caught on; and your counterparties using Gmail or some Microsoft server in the background will kill any expectation of privacy you might have.

WW II's Gordon Welchman is worth reading about. Similar nasty end as Turing. Not as well known as Turing but a similar contribution before the encryption was actually solved.

Have used Zoho for decades. Dozen domains, three/four actual accounts. Don't seem to have had any issues with them selling my info - use them with Addy.io. I don't gain anything from this reference/comment.

I'm using Posteo and have no reason to complain about anything. It pretty much just works. Few bells and whistles.

Posteo ftw!

Been using Mailbox for years without any issue. German reliability. But the fact that one of Proton's directors revealed that he agrees with 75 million Americans does not mean that a whole company, based in Switzerland and with many other stakeholders, has "gone rogue". I'm not getting into a new fight about this here but I really think American progressives need to drop this religious approach to dissent and heterodoxy and just relax a little. It will be okay.

I've been using Inbox.eu, provider from Latvia, for a few years now, specifically with my own domain. Was pretty easy to setup, and the support was also good when I messed up some DNS settings.

Fastmail has been treating me well. Unlimited aliases and masked emails are really the only features I use, but it’s got sort of the classic suite of productivity tools you’d expect. I self host equivalents of these, but for a drop in replacement for most of the g-suite it’s good without trying to be more than it needs to be.

Another mailbox.org user here. I did the same switch as @caravaggio@feddit.nl around the same time and I can highly recommend as well. Setting up custom domains is also not hard and well documented in their knowledge-base. I am also using it for calendars and contacts with no issues at all. A plus of their premium (3€/month) plan, apart from custom domains, is that you have access to a series of other things (appointments, videoconferencing etc.) which are a nice thing to have if you need them (as an occasional teacher in academia I enjoyed having the options, especially since I could avoid Google/Microsoft stuff).

The only annoying thing is how they handle 2fa login on their website. I rarely need to login, but when I do I always suffer.

I am using startmail at the moment with a custom domainand am pleased but I do plan on migrating due to the cost for adding more mailboxes. So I am reading along here but from my research recently I personally also found Tuta attractive along with mailbox for their price and feature set. What has proton done by the way? I have never really trusted the organization but has something happened recently?