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[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 196 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last version I'd ever use. They didn't know how right they were. I've been gradually switching to Linux, and will absolutely never use Windows 11 or any other version they put out.

[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 66 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I built a new gaming PC and installed Linux on it. After years of threatening to do it, I finally followed through and made the switch.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 16 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

I just bought a laptop last year (portability and space constraints, I'd love to build a pc when I have the space for it) and it was supposed to come with windows 10.

I got a windows 11 model shipped to me. I didn't ask for this. And I have to say.... I fucking hate it. Why does the start menu need to change locations...

My next computer will absolutely be Linux, and it's Microsoft's own stupid fault. Windows 10 WAS supposed to be my last windows OS...

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 16 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Why does the start menu need to change locations...

The INFINITELY bigger question is why isn't it my choice? I actually just modified my windows 10 to have the start menu be centered, but like, it should just be completely customizable to your liking... as if it were your own computer or something. If I wanted everything locked down and baby proofed I would have just bought a Mac.

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[–] Trollception@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 weeks ago

Good luck and godspeed

[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The second creative cloud is on Linux the share of windows users will drop dramatically.

[–] cccrontab@lemmy.world 42 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

Adobe needs to be abandoned as well. Clip Studio, Krita, Gimp, Affinity are either free OSS or one-time-payment great alternatives without the AI and privacy BS.

[–] Doombot1@lemmy.one 18 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I’ve also mentioned this before but for those that need a more photoshop-like GIMP experience, try taking a look at PhotoGimp, it’s essentially a reskin+remap of all of the hotkeys to more closely match those of photoshop, and it works wonderfully.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 7 points 4 weeks ago

Once they update it to use Gimp 3 it should be a blast

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

under the marketing it’s still 10.x.

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[–] scops@reddthat.com 85 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

The whole point of the Sword of Damocles was that the threat was always looming and Damocles didn't know when it might fall. We know exactly when Microsoft says they are going to drop support. There's a decent chance that they'll push that date back due to slow adoption at least once.

This is more about rats not fleeing the sinking ship until the sea has reached the bow.

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

More like rats not joining a leaking ship. I've been through enough windows upgrades to know: Don't be the first! You'll only end up paying to be a software tester for a product MS had to ship before it's ready to keep the shareholders happy.

Don't be the first one in the water after the shark warning ...

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

With the shit they built into 10 I really would not be surprised if they put in a kill switch

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

"Sword of Damocles" like bitch we used service pack 2 XP for ever. "We won't support something" means nothing if the original product was built right.

...Ohhh now I see the problem. Nevermind, everybody, carry on.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 4 weeks ago

I know people still running XP sp3 (firewalled off the net) and it still does the job. They claimed to have killed 7 but between FOSS and enshittification pushback I reckon it's gonna be like the PS2

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Well, the real moment it becomes an issue is when a significant vulnerability is found after EOS. So I guess after EOS is when the sword of damocles starts hanging above every win 10 user..

Personally I'm on the edge of the ship just waiting to jump off once i have my new pc (probably next week).

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 49 points 4 weeks ago

They are gonna have to pry windows 10 from my cold dead hands. I was sold 10 on the premise that it was going to be "the last windows OS I would need".

Fuck you Microsoft.

[–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 48 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Windows 10 LTSC is supported until 2032 or so. I’ll be avoiding upgrading for a long time.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

How do you get a copy of that? I tried poking around but MS has the shittiest docs.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 31 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Something about a mass grave.

[–] ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 weeks ago

Something something .dev

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[–] shininghero@pawb.social 14 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Found a copy on archive.org.
After that, you just need a KMS activator. Massgrave's is typically the recommended one.

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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

At the moment I’m 50/50 between switching over to Linux full-time, or full booting Windows 10 LTSC.

But having had to use it for work, I am adamant in saying that Windows 11 will never touch my home system drive.

Linux

One of us, one of us, one of us.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 weeks ago

Sword of Damocles? More like the sword of Microsoft can go fuck itself!

[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 weeks ago (12 children)

I finally upgraded to 11 last week by accident. Apparently one misclick means straight to next version with no cancel. So after the upgrade first thing I did was get o&o shutup10 to kill the spywares.

P.s. I know I can revert. But that's also effort.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 36 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (5 children)

Revert then.

This is exactly what Microsoft are counting on, that people will simply go "oh well" and just carry on with Windows 11, because any effort needed to move away is too much effort.

Prove them wrong. Stand up for yourself.

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[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

Hadn’t heard of shutup10, I’ll be digging into this tonight

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If I did anything other than use my PC as a glorified gaming console, I might care about w10 not being updated anymore. Until games literally can't work on the OS, I'll stay on it. And when they do stop working, I'll probably just install Linux.

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[–] SabinStargem 16 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

I tried to switch to Linux several days ago, but there were clear issues regarding games that weren't tied to Steam. Heroic Games Launcher, Lutris, Bottles, and so forth all had shortcomings regarding compatibility, handling of DLC, or lack of user-friendliness. Then I tried to use a VM, which was a frustrating rabbit hole. Virt-Manager supports GPU passthru, but you have to jump through hoops to identify PCI addresses and to configure correctly. Boxes initially seemed promising, but had no apparent way of storing the VM on my gaming drive. (Linux terminal commands are beyond my understanding.) Considering how big games are getting, and the size of my collection, that is a bad combo. Virtualbox doesn't have GPU passthru, so the performance sucked.

As a gamer, I currently find Linux to be insufficient. I was wanting to switch due to security concerns regarding Microsoft, especially in light of the Trump Regime's willingness to ignore law and norms. My concern is that they could use Windows as a spy, or to seal up my computer to punish those who go against Dogey America. As it is, I will have to use some scripts from Github to break Windows Update if I hear of Richmond being infiltrated by the Xitler Youth.

Here's hoping that Gabe decides to invest much more heavily in Linux to make it casual friendly - I want my mods, cheats, Japanese locale games, emulators, and so forth to all work seamlessly and without compromise. I would seriously pay $400 smackers to have an OS that is capable, flexible, compatible, friendly, and most importantly, MINE.

The days of just buying Windows 7 Ultimate and not thinking about Microsoft was glorious.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Sorry it didn’t work out for you like Linux Mint works for me (I switched full time to LM in December 2024).

If you haven’t already, switch to Windows 10 LTSC in the interim. I have a feeling Linux will only improve over time with greater compatibility with Proton. Since Win 10 LTSC is supported until 2029, that’s plenty of time for for more kinks to be worked out and you can potentially try Linux again.

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Except it isn't even remotely a sword of damacles situation. 🤣

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[–] hisao@ani.social 14 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

There are still people so powerful they manage to use Windows XP in this day and age. My intuition says most people will be able to use Windows 10 for at least one more decade with minimal issues, after that it will gradually become trickier, but it will still be usable even in 20-30 years with advanced hacks if humanity doesn't go extinct by then.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

"Powerful" probably wouldn't be the word I'd use given that security updates have stopped. Maybe "foolhardy"?

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[–] ShadowRam@fedia.io 14 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)

I mean, I tried for about a week...

Got a larger SSD and I wanted to reinstalled Windows, so I went through the whole getting Win11 thing, and it wouldn't let me install it. Although I have a full blown paid for Home Edition Win 10 linked to my microsoft account.

It said I had to install Win 10 first, so I did.. AFter all that, I went into windows update like is said, looked for the Win 11 update option... Doesn't exist...

My AMD 5800X and everything else on my PC supports Win 11. It's just not giving me the option.

So I gave up...

I'll likely use Win10 until SteamOS is released...

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[–] YoiksAndAway@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm one of them. My 6th generation processor means that Windows 10 will be the last version of windows that this machine runs.

[–] turtle@lemm.ee 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

This, to me, is the worst sin of Windows 11. One of the greatest benefits Windows had compared to macOS was that it used to be backward compatible with really old hardware. Real pro move to get rid of that.

Edit: I bought a cheap micro form factor PC that I thought would support Windows 11 natively. Haha, no, the 6 year old CPU on that was not supported.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Pry it from my cold dead hands. I have linux on multiple computers, but it still can’t play all the games and give me my 5.1 surround. Despite all the claims, it’s still not ready for primetime to do all the things windows does.

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[–] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 12 points 4 weeks ago

I enjoy this headline writing style. Imagine if we turned "try these 7 tricks" headlines into "Dionysius I of Syracuse would like you to try these"

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (8 children)

For the curious I’ve found bazzite to be the best and easiest Linux distro for gaming

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sword of Linuxcles.

[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 10 points 4 weeks ago

Only one computer left on Windows in my household and only because of gaming. Everything else is on either Linux Mint or Bazzite as I finalize testing. Windows is dead to me.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 9 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Once EOL hits I'm switching to Linux.

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[–] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Yeah, but this happens with every version. Windows 7 still had a big market share up until MSFT cut off support. Users are going to bitch and complain and talk about switching to Linux, but eventually just install the next Windows version.

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