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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 88 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

God dammit, and just as Google starts enforcing manifest 3. Maybe it's time to stop doing this internet thing altogether. It had a pretty nice run but right now it's just a propaganda and compliance tool...

[–] anon@lemmus.org 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I was on the verge of deleting everything online, including my email address, because I'm with you, but at what point does the privacy movement start intruding on enjoyment of daily activity. I've accepted that my information will be had in exchange for a good product.

It's not exactly how I want to operate, but also, life is too short. Ultimately, I'm on the verge of using Mullvad Browser, Mullvad VPN, and probably getting my email hosted out of some small shared hosting platform somewhere.

I think about this type of stuff daily and it's just exhausting. The Internet has transformed into what we'd hoped it wouldn't over the past five years.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

From my understanding, they're pushing this shit on March 14th.

π

Also our next lunar eclipse, at least in the USA.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Bring back ham radios.

Ah shit I'm too introverted to use my voice...

Data packets through radio?

Btw: Rattlegram is a Android/iOS app that can convert text to audio, which you can then play over a ham radio. You can use encryption before you paste the ciphertext into Rattlegram. (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

(Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

Unless the police do it.

Because they got a fucking licence

Us plebs don't have the privilage

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 7 points 3 weeks ago

Data packets through radio?

Software Defined Radio?

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Check out the gemini protocol and the small web, lots of rabbit holes there.

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[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 76 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They've released an update, and I'm just generally confused: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/

I fully believe that they didn't intend for it to sound so... all encompassing, but this update makes me even more confused. What data is "uploaded" to firefox? I just thought Firefox was the browser, not some website. Do they mean the services Mozilla offers?

[–] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This doesn't make any sense to me either. Why do they need a license for what you type into Firefox if that data never gets shared with Mozilla?

I don't know a single application that you need to give a license to so they can handle your data locally.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 weeks ago
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

We’ve seen a little confusion about the language

Tastes like "I'm sorry you feel that way"

The privacy notice document lists how each data type is used. It includes in-browser ads on the new tab page, AI chatbots, and "to market our services".

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm glad I use a fork, even if it much more unstable. Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.

Maybe that's why Mozilla quit contributing to it.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Igalia is currently working hard on making it easy to use Servo as an embeddable browser engine similar to how Chromium can be used.

The problems of doing that with Gecko, the browser engine that powers Firefox, is main reason why there are so few alternative browsers based on it.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago

Or why do they have a world wide right for anything entered into Firefox.

[–] RiQuY@lemm.ee 67 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This seems like a great time to install LibreWolf.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)

[–] wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

AFAIK the sync is end to end encrypted

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[–] swab148@startrek.website 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I just switched to Bitwarden for passwords

[–] anon@lemmus.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

That's the best free option, and possibly best option overall. I've been with them for about five years now and it's been great.

[–] kobra@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

Firefox sync is E2EE too (or at least can be, mine is)

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[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

I’m switching to Librewolf. I don’t want ads in my browser.

[–] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Why why why don't they just do like Wikipedia or the Internet Archive does and just come out and ask for donations instead of trying to sneak all this advertising shit into things?

EDIT: Another idea, which I'm sure they'll never consider, is to host actual @thunderbird.net email addresses which could be paid for. People at this very minute are looking for Proton Mail replacements, and this could be one of them . . .

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Capital is the problem, not nationality.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, but also non existent US privacy policy. There the users are simply raw material for the benefit of large corporations and user rights an incomprehensible communist phrase, to make America great again. The EU at least put limits to these abuses.

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[–] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That website actually promotes Firefox, you know. Not sure it fits this thread.

[–] pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Also from the "European" recommendations, Vivaldi is Chromium, and Mullvad is Tor, which is Firefox.

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[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And Firefox is no longer my browser. Tada.

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago

do you mean you use a more privacy oriented fork like Librewolf, or instead some chrome/chromium derivative or fork?

[–] cheezoid2@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

So what’s the next best thing to use, preferably one that supports uBlock?

[–] smpl@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 3 weeks ago

Librewolf it comes with uBlock installed.

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago

There is only firefox, chrome, or safari to chose from. I just use a firefox fork.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

If you're sticking to Firefox-based browsers, Waterfox seems to be the fork closest to Firefox without being controlled by Mozilla.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I'll be moving to https://github.com/schizofox/schizofox on my x86 machines.

Mobile will be a fork of Firefox.

https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird is a project I'm keeping an eye on, will be a while off being a daily driver.

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[–] markvandijk@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

What's the best alternative? This doesn't sound great.....

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

anyone up to date on how servo has been doing?

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder how they can expect to get more users like that. Their user are privacy conscious, this is the move to lose them. I am thinking about using tor browser on android. I don't see any other alternative.

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[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox

i can suggest ironfox, the fork of mull for android

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Why don't they use the official fdroid repo?

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

i dont know on how many of my accounts back then on reddit were banned for pointing out the moz board is just trash. more than 10 i am sure. again and again people dont want to hear they are wrong. still cant tell people THEY are the problem when using apple or google accounts, but those digital imbeciles tell me about the dangers of deepseek.thankfully in a globalised world natural selection is back on the map and not adapting to modern society puts you in place. so everyone can stick to their wrong beliefs and not vax, have accounts with google or even vote trump...be as dumb as you want...keep telling yourself mozilla is "the good guys"... iphones are secure and manufactured without slave labour.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

It's frustrating that the last bastion of hope against total Google dominance of the browser market has no sense of direction at all and is constantly tripping over rakes.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

Personally, i still belive in not giving Google market dominance but that's mainly because I want the web to thrive, and competition breeds innovation.

With that said, these ToS are making me leave FF, although I am going to Librefox and Fenec now

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't know, could you explain please

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

see this other post: https://lemmy.ml/post/26518180/16957376

Hint, look at the date this gets pushed, :)

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No, we all got the pi = march 14 part, but WTF does that have to do with anything?

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