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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Oklahoma’s Republican Attorney General Gentner Drummond on Friday sued to stop a state board from establishing and funding what would be the nation’s first religious public charter school after the board ignored Drummond’s warning that it would violate both the state and U.S. constitutions.

Drummond filed the lawsuit with the Oklahoma Supreme Court against the Oklahoma Statewide Virtual Charter School Board after three of the board’s members this week signed a contract for the St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual Charter School, which is sponsored by the Archdiocese of Oklahoma City.

“Make no mistake, if the Catholic Church were permitted to have a public virtual charter school, a reckoning will follow in which this state will be faced with the unprecedented quandary of processing requests to directly fund all petitioning sectarian groups,” the lawsuit states.

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 62 points 1 year ago
[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Religious public schools are a sign of a dead country. Don't let Republicans kill America.

[-] moody 48 points 1 year ago

To be fair, the AG himself is a Republican. I don't know much about him, but at least in this instance, he's on the right side of the argument.

[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Religions: We have the right to be involved in public affairs.

Also religions: No we don't pay taxes lol.

Also religions: You know what, we should probably get a share of some of that tax money.

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It's one of the oldest cons in the world. Convince people that an intangible really good thing like salvation is dependent on their getting in your good graces and fleece them for all they are worth.

One of my favorite descriptions of the racket comes from the Gospel of Thomas whose portrayal of Jesus had a theology of salvation as a universal birthright, chastising people who would give the shirt off their backs to prophets or messengers that are delivering them what they are inherently due (it also makes fun of fasting or praying as dumb sauce).

In it, there's a parable about a kid who inherited a farm with a buried treasure, but isn't aware there's buried treasure, so the kid sells the farm to someone else who finds the treasure and turns around to lend it out to people at interest.

Portraying the concept of salvation as an inherited treasure which people hand over to others to lend back to them at interest is probably one of the most on point descriptions of organized religion I've ever seen.

And it says a lot about humanity that so many are more ready to believe that they are inherently flawed and doomed and it's only through the good graces of others that they can be entitled to good things, then they are to believe that every life brought into existence would be ethically entitled to salvation if brought into existence by a being of agency which also had the capacity to deliver salvation.

Like, if you're just making shit up, why not just default to good stuff? Especially when the Bible literally has a story about a litmus test to tell a true parent from a false one that boils down to a false parent caring only any recognition even if the child comes to harm and the true parent caring more about the child's continuing to live as their full self than ever even being known to it. Pretty weird the surrounding text promotes a divine parent that only cares about recognition even if it means the suffering of their supposed children....

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Canadian here, do not allow the Catholics to infiltrate and muddy your publicly funded school system. They have enough money to set up their own bullshit. Now in Canada, my money goes to fund fucking Catholic schools, but only Catholic, not any other religion. It's straight up obscene.

Already done with PragerU in FL, NH and a couple of other states. Maybe PragerU will come to a school near you. Local elections matter folks vote November 7 and keep the trumpy grumpies out of our government.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Make no mistake, if the Catholic Church were permitted to have a public virtual charter school, a reckoning will follow in which this state will be faced with the unprecedented quandary of processing requests to directly fund all petitioning sectarian groups

Shucks, I was ready to open my Lucifer’s school for kids who can’t read good. Guess I’ll have to put it on hold.

[-] burntbutterbiscuits@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Satan’s little helper’s?

I mean, if the little guy’s can read the Bible backwards they can read anythinng!

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

During December they do a name change to Santa’s Helpers.

That will totally screw with certain groups

[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Public school must be secular, otherwise it's not education. It's brainwashing.

[-] 7355608@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

While I agree that schools should be secular. I don't think keeping religion out of schools is going to stop the brainwashing. The government gets to decide what is taught in schools, and they have just as much of a vested interest in teaching certain points of view, and discrediting others as religious bodies do.

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 16 points 1 year ago

The Satanic Temple quietly watching and smiling…

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The shit hit the fan back in 2020, (no) thanks to the usual suspects:

"A state need not subsidize private education," wrote Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., in a 5-4 opinion for the majority. "But once a state decides to do so, it cannot disqualify some private schools solely because they are religious."

Full story

[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not sure why the party affiliation of the AG matters here. But for on him for suing.

[-] Starglasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

A worrying amount of people will disregard the opinion of "the other side". Republicans will see this as their point of view knowing it is a Republican speaker.

Bad logic, but all too common.

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