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[-] TBi@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago

Oh please do! Great way to kill your site faster

[-] rbn@feddit.ch 67 points 1 year ago

As much as I'd appeciate a shift away from Reddit elsewhere, I have to admit that Reddit is often among my most helpful Google results. No matter how stupid the recent management decisions are, it grew to a massive knowledge database over the years. Banning it from search engines would have a negative impact on the overall internet experience.

[-] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 28 points 1 year ago

Because SEO made Google bad and Reddit has a higher chance for a real person's opinion, which is fantastic. Though we don't need Reddit for that, we can fully replace it with Lemmy by now. But there's a not small part of people, who want to keep Lemmy small and unimportant. Just had that conversation yesterday, there's some gatekeeping going on.

[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t know if that’s the best way to frame the argument. It’s not about keeping this place “small and unimportant”, it’s that by now we’ve all seen what happens when websites like this get big.

Reddit started out as “it will always be free, and we’ll never mess with your personal data or shove ads down your throat” too. That’s just not sustainable when you start dealing with tens of millions of users and billions of page views a day. Hosting the servers capable of supporting the traffic alone will cost tens of millions of dollars per year.

In other words, if Lemmy gets as big or as popular as Reddit, it will get just as shitty and corporate as Reddit. Guaranteed.

[-] Fisch@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

The whole point of Lemmy being open source and federated is to prevent just that

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's everybody's duty to spread information away from a centralised service.

Facts are not subject to copyright.

[-] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Facts are not subject to copyright.

Hahaha, tell that to the textbook industry.

[-] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 5 points 1 year ago

This. I often search for results from Reddit.

[-] Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

As soon as the search indexing stops, Reddit will be permanently gone from my radar. Good riddance!

[-] jcmurty@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

sure it can. since deleting all accounts the only reason I ever visit Reddit these days is because of search. so yeah make sure I never have a reason to come back

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Look and see if your accounts were resurrected, they were un-deleting a ton of comments and other user-removed content when everyone first shifted to here.

[-] jcmurty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

i was mostly a lurker but good call. will search while it's an option!

[-] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Note that there isn't really a way to actually delete your content. You gave Reddit an irrevocable license to it.

[-] ComradeR@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Same here! I only visit Reddit to see some post I've saw in the search results. By not allowing the pages to be shown in search engines I'm 100% not looking at Reddit at all!

[-] jcmurty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

every site (well not every site obviously) has their place and their time. I remember MySpace but I do not miss it

[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 41 points 1 year ago

Hahahahahahahahah

Oh wait, you're serious? Let me laugh harder

Hahahahahahahahaha

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

So reddit's planning on making both reddit and google useless?

[-] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Google search: hyperspecific computer or hobby problem reddit is the only good material I find on the damn site.

[-] the_itsb@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

lol no it can't

It's really, really, really going to suck to lose that resource when troubleshooting weird hardware and software issues, but that seems inevitable at this point. He really seems to be trying to figure out the stupidest way to kill the utility of the site in the name of profit.

[-] Onii-Chan@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Keep in mind this is the same guy who said that he idolizes the way Musk has been running Twitter. It's a real shame, because reddit is the only place I know to get actual real answers from actual real people for generally difficult or otherwise niche questions. I don't use reddit anymore as a user, but without Google search, reddit is done (given that even ex-users like myself still affix 'reddit' to the end of a search query.) I have no idea what Spez is planning, but it can't be any improvements to his site, because holy shit.

[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s gonna be a real nasty bandaid to pull off but that company shouldn’t have a stranglehold on that information. I hope this move tanks them severely.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Reddit is really gonna go full Digg, aren't they?

[-] Shurimal@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Digging their own grave, it seems, and it's so deep they can smell the Earth's core in there.

[-] Polar@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Considering pretty much every sub went back public, and they have seen no drop in users, I'd say no.

https://fedidb.org/software/lemmy

Lemmy is declining.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

One of the major things left drawing in views. Get rekt reddit-logo

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

ahahhahhah yes lmao do it fuckin losers.

I swear Elon and Spez are in a race to destroy their own platforms.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Spez will probably win that race with how niche Reddit is to begin with compared to Twitter

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Okay then what the hell am I going to type in after 80% of my google searches to avoid SEO spam?

[-] forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Why is reddit regarded so highly this way? It's always been a second rate board to me. Like yeah there's some technical discussion there. Even notable names might post there. But it's the social media version of technical side of the internet. It's generally full of garbage that requires heavy doses of skepticism as bad info often gets visibility. There is no recourse since the nature of reddit engagement is ephemeral. The proverbial concrete sets shortly after the post/comment is made.

I suppose the state off affairs have deteriorated so far that search engines don't even index the internet properly anymore. Actual discussion boards and websites are basically darknet these days. Internet indexes for all intents and purposes don't exist today. Search engines a glorified index links to each others social media platforms. Even then the bulk of results are online shopping spam.

What a mess.

For any topic I actually want to dive into I do not use reddit for anything more than initial discovery. Social media by nature commoditizes content to serve the masses by appealing to the lowest common denominators. The bulk of the content never goes below surface level.

[-] gamma@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago

It varies. Reddit is/was the primary forum for a number of projects, and as each sub is community moderated, could be quite rich, even if the whole is "generally full of garbage".

Didn’t spez threaten this last week or something? Seriously, shit or get off the pot. Also, don’t threaten us with a good time.

[-] Mr_Buscemi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

It's the same article from 5 days ago

[-] autotldr 11 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The Washington Post reported Friday that Reddit might cut off Google and force users to log in to Reddit itself to read anything, if it can’t reach deals with generative AI companies to pay for its data.

“Nothing is changing,” Reddit spokesperson Courtney Geesey-Dorr told The Verge, adding that the Post would soon be correcting its story.

The publication now writes that if Reddit can’t get AI to play ball, the company may block Google and Bing’s search crawlers, which means Reddit posts wouldn’t show up in search results.

“In terms of crawlers, we don’t have anything to share on that topic at the moment,” Reddit spokesperson Tim Rathschmidt tells The Verge, clarifying that the company’s earlier “nothing is changing” comment only applied to logins.

(In my June interview with Reddit CEO Steve Huffman, he said that “we’re in talks” with AI companies about the pricing changes.

The Washington Post’s report wasn’t just focused on Reddit — it’s about how more than 535 news organizations have opted to block their content from being scraped by companies like OpenAI to help train products such as ChatGPT.


The original article contains 473 words, the summary contains 185 words. Saved 61%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[-] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

please get rid of the only reason I even open that shithole, I'm begging you

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Reddit is apparently seeking to strike deals with big AI companies.

Always, always chasing THE BIG NEW THING. seen-this-one

[-] ultratiem@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Google isn’t the only search engine. Microsoft (Bing) are just as bad as Google because everyone runs off to DDG or Brave.

So Reddit isn’t wrong, but partnering with Microsoft isn’t any better.

[-] DannyMac@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] middlemanSI@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Is reddit still a thing?

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